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Richard Avedon.
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I can't say much about the photography.
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I don't follow rules, precepts, or advice.
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There are fashion photographers,
portrait painters and photojournalists.
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And then there's Richard Avedon.
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It would be difficult to find today
to a creative
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that is not influenced
for the work of Avedon.
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Richard Avedon photographed
the beautiful and the not so beautiful.
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That made him rich, famous and controversial.
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They have called me a cruel manipulator,
Existentialist hero…
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So, yes.
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…and, as if that were not enough,
agent of death.
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Avedon's portraits
They are faces that confront you
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and they do not hide their imperfections.
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Why did you choose photography?
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I still don't know how to type.
I don't even understand the lyrics.
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I don't think linearly.
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I am anecdotal. I am instinctive.
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But I have a motherfucking eye.
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That's me...
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many years ago.
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{\an8}And that's my mom and I...
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{\an8}ACTRESS AND MODEL
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{\an8}…in a similar pose.
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Avedon did not work
like other photographers.
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He kept looking at me
and took a photo every now and then.
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He must have taken about ten of this.
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And that's it. Then he chose one.
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The others took a lot of photos
and they edited them later.
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Avedon was like a hunter.
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I clicked and told you:
"Focus. Think of something.
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I don't know. In your children,
on a beautiful day at the beach."
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Whatever it was.
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And the expression on your face changed.
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I know very well what I want
before starting each session.
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But, if the model does not feel part,
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if you feel that you are hired for an hour,
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like a mannequin
who should do this or that,
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you won't get more than that from her.
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- Polly.
- Yes.
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Can you put the tooth in?
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Everyone outside. Good.
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We took hundreds and hundreds of photos.
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How pretty she was.
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{\an8}He said, "Let's have fun.
Do what you want."
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{\an8}MODEL
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{\an8}During four days of sessions,
we just have fun.
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If I have a one hour session,
I waste the first half hour.
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No need
try your hardest for an hour.
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We drink coffee and laugh.
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People think we are crazy.
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And, five minutes
before the hour is up,
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let's go to the white background and that's it.
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When the fifth day arrived,
we did 18 pages in two days.
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It was in Exuma. An incredible trip.
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My breast came out.
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Dick raised his eyebrows.
and said, "That's good. Let's leave it at that."
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And I said, "Okay."
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RICHARD AVEDON FOUNDATION
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{\an8}EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR
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{\an8}Avedon did about 16,000 sessions
during his career,
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between 1944 and 2004.
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This is just a small part.
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Before social networks,
our influence was magazines.
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We understood visual culture
with Harper's Bazaar or Vogue.
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And the person responsible for that
It was Richard Avedon.
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When viewing your files,
you can see how he captured it with his lens
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the cultural spirit
of the second half of the 20th century.
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That's the fun
to see Avedon's work.
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From Suzy Parker's fashion photos…
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even the austere portraits,
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stripped of everything.
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Just a white background and a black border.
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That's the Avedon seal.
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Dispense with everything so that there is only
the subject and the viewer.
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The most interesting thing about photography
It's like writing my autobiography
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with the faces I portray.
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I feel identified.
And I feel a connection with them.
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There is an exchange of energy
with the person portrayed.
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When those energies meet,
the photograph is taken.
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but the camera
It hinders more than it helps.
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If I could take photos with my eyes,
I would be happier.
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When I was a child…
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He walked and blinked.
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I closed my eyes,
He opened them and closed them again.
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I didn't know photography yet.
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Saved images in memory
that way.
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AVEDON BUILDING
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{\an8}My dad had a women's clothing store,
Avedon's Fifth Avenue.
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They had all the fashion magazines,
Vanity Fair, Vogue, Harper's Bazaar.
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That was in the middle of the 1930s.
when I was a child.
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I saw beautiful photographs
by Munkácsi, Steichen and Bruehl.
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If I become obsessed with something,
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I only focus on what interests me.
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I don't care about anything else.
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He was a strange child.
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I remember that, with a magnifying glass,
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I concentrated the heat of the sun
and I burned the edges of all the rugs.
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It seemed like I was a little crazy,
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but it was the beginning
of something I didn't know.
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My dad was the son of a man
who had had a very difficult life
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and I just wanted to get ahead.
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{\an8}Jack Avedon and his brothers opened
a store on Fifth Avenue.
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{\an8}SON OF RICHARD AVEDON
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{\an8}A great achievement, I think.
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{\an8}But they lost everything due to the Great Depression.
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My grandfather was demanding, strict and severe.
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{\an8}Dick always sought her approval.
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{\an8}WRITER
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{\an8}But, as often happens, he never succeeded.
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my father wanted
that he had a good education,
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that he was physically strong
and that I would earn a living.
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But I always felt like a failure.
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I grew up thinking
which was hopelessly stupid.
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I didn't finish high school.
I failed all the subjects.
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My dad won a poetry prize
in high school, although he did not graduate.
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He was an intuitive man,
not an intellectual.
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NEW YORK CITY
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The day has arrived to enlist.
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Young workers and peasants
They line up all over the country.
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I entered the Merchant Navy,
in the Photography Department.
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I photographed about a hundred thousand
puzzled faces.
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They were identifications.
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The only thing I did
It was autopsies and identifications.
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Take thousands of photos on a white background
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and see thousands of bewildered faces
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It shapes your vision of the world.
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No two photos were the same.
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An infinite variety.
Like fingerprints.
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I used to look at the portraits every day
with great curiosity and interest.
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I was trying to understand who they were.
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When the war ended,
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I took design and graphic arts courses,
and also photography.
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The great teacher of my life
and my great photography teacher
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It was Alexey Brodovitch.
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Brodovitch, his hero and mentor,
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He was also the art director.
from Harper's Bazaar.
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{\an8}I taught design at The New School.
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{\an8}ART DIRECTOR
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It was like a laboratory of ideas.
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Brodovitch told them
to his students: "Surprise me."
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I went to all his classes.
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I took design and graphic arts courses,
and also photography.
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The homework of one of those classes
was to create a neon sign for Broadway.
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I said, "Mr. Brodovitch, I'm a photographer.
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I don't know how to design
a billboard for Times Square."
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He raised his shining head and said:
"What if you use spaghetti?"
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And I thought, "Gosh, that's the lesson.
"I won't be blocked again."
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If you can't in one way,
you do it differently.
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I made the sign with some pipe cleaners.
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And it was a key lesson for my life:
you have to solve the problems.
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{\an8}He showed up at the office and showed me
some pretty amateur photos,
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{\an8}some snapshots.
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And I noticed a certain enthusiasm.
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Did you hire Avedon
for their enthusiasm and not for their photos?
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Yes, because of his personality.
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Brodovitch encouraged him to go to Paris
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together with the people
of the fashion industry
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who returned for the first time since 1939,
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eager for fame and fortune.
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UNITED STATES
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He was very young.
I didn't know anything. He hadn't gone anywhere.
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Nobody knew what Paris looked like
during the occupation.
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And Paris seemed like hell.
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Harper's Bazaar had the mission
to revive the French economy
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returning to Paris
the glamor of the prewar.
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And my job was to revive the spirit
of the great French industries.
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Luggage, champagne, clothes, fabrics, embroidery.
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But what did I know about glamor
or elegant clothes?
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The last time I saw a tuxedo
It was at my bar mitzvah.
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I didn't know anything about the world
that they sent me to photograph,
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only what I had seen
in the Astaire and Rogers films.
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So I started recreating
those pre-war movies.
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I lit up every restaurant and every street
as if it were a movie.
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CRAZY RHYTHM
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The editors of Harper's Bazaar
They helped me a lot.
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Carmel Snow was my editor
and Diana Vreeland, my fashion editor.
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I once photographed a model crying
at the train station.
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And Carmel Snow told me: "Nobody cries
in a Dior hat, Dick."
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I learned how it worked
the world, society, money.
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Dior made his first big collection
after the war.
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I was there and, in a moment,
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five girls entered
with long, wide and pleated skirts.
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Because of the war, there was no fabric.
The skirts were above the knee.
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These skirts reached the ankle,
and all five turned at the same time.
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People were crying.
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It was a top show
to any play I saw.
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{\an8}He saw that...
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{\an8}PHOTOGRAPHER
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{\an8}…the twists, the flying fabric…
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And created moments. It wasn't random.
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He chose meticulously.
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THE NEW FASHION IS IMPOSED
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He understood everything.
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I think a good fashion photo
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guides us into the future,
towards possibility, like a compass.
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{\an8}Avedon captured a moment,
but it took us to the next one.
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{\an8}EDITORIAL DIRECTOR
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Suddenly, The New Look collection
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made almost all clothes obsolete
of 50 million American women.
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And Dior rose to fame
from one day to the next.
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It was the golden age of magazines.
They were the biggest influence.
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And they defined the aesthetic
of what it was like to be fashionable.
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Dick understood magazines like no one else.
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{\an8}I knew what to portray, when to do it
and how it should look.
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{\an8}FORMER EDITORIAL DIRECTOR
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I remember a woman,
who later became famous as a model,
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who said that he saw those photos and thought:
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"What a good time everyone is having
and how beautiful they look in Paris.
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"That's where I should be."
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But no one dressed like that in Paris.
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I created everything from my imagination.
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These images are fantasy…
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from a very young photographer.
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And I thought, "That's it."
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Any artist chooses
what you want to paint, write or say.
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The same thing happens with photographers.
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Objectivity does not exist at all.
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As a child, I saw everyone smiling
in family albums.
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We had family problems.
There wasn't much laughter at home.
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But they smiled in the photos.
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I remember that my parents
they put the good photos in the album
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and they discarded those of my sister crying
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or those that did not show us
like a perfect family.
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My little sister Louise was beautiful.
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She was a fragile girl.
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She was always dressed like a doll.
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We photographed her all the time
because he loved posing.
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When I was nine years old,
I took a negative of a photo of her
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and I taped it to my shoulder.
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And I exposed myself to the sun.
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I went to the beach and spent the whole day there.
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Sunlight passed through the negative,
and I took it off the next morning.
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And my sister was captured on my skin.
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Her beauty affected me.
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As an adult, when I started taking photos,
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all the faces
and all the models that attracted me
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They looked like Louise.
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The oval face,
the high cheekbones, the brown hair...
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All my first models
They reminded me of my sister.
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In 1955, Avedon photographed
to Dovima with elephants.
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It is one of the most iconic fashion photos
of the history of photography.
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Dovima was in the middle of a circus
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and she was wearing a black Dior dress
with a Yves Saint Laurent bow.
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I used resources that seemed
of fairy tales.
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He dominated dimensions and space,
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and could match elephants with models.
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I'm looking for something complicated,
something contradictory.
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Similarities in very strange places.
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That's what interests me.
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{\an8}He was very smart when choosing
what and who to photograph.
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{\an8}ART DEALER
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{\an8}And it was not always what was expected or typical.
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Dovima's photo with elephants
shows the contrasts of our culture.
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It is one of his most iconic images
and one of the most valuable.
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I think we sold one for two million.
259
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{\an8}He changed everything.
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{\an8}And he broke all the rules.
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{\an8}Created a new horizon
for fashion photography.
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And, to a large extent,
It is the basis of our work.
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{\an8}Fashion photography of the 40s
It was very static.
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{\an8}ART DIRECTOR
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{\an8}He had almost no movement.
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He turned it into something magical.
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I looked for the theatrical in everything.
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Books and magazines
They are like cinema on paper.
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{\an8}What is it that catches you?
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{\an8}What is the plot? The beginning,
the knot and the end?
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What does it derive from?
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A photo was like a play,
and he was the director.
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When Cinderella arrived from Paris,
He had been a young prodigy for about 10 years.
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CINDERELLA OF PARIS
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In the mid-50s,
Dick worked onCinderella of Paris.
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Dick's seal is very noticeable.
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I'm teaching Fred Astaire
to be a photographer.
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Astaire plays Dick Avery,
a stylized version of Dick.
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Good.
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A fashion photographer
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who marries a girl
and turns her into a model.
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A story
slightly inspired by my life.
283
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My first wife,
Doe, was a model and actress.
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And the screenwriter was a friend of ours.
285
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Good. Let's go!
286
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The moment when Audrey Hepburn
He says, "Take the photo."
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Take the photo!
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He loved that.
In that sense, it was true to reality.
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{\an8}That movie gave him exposure
unprecedented.
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Avedon made the leap from magazines
to a much more massive medium.
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Now the young photographers
They recognized me because I was Avedon.
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NEW YORK CITY
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In the 1950s, Marilyn hired Avedon
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to photograph her
for The Prince and the Showgirl.
295
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In the press images,
she was seen dancing.
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It was a cheerful portrait of Marilyn Monroe.
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But Avedon had to decipher
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how to photograph someone
so used to the camera.
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How do you get that mask to fall?
300
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The session lasted all day.
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There was champagne and music,
and they tried different poses.
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At the end of the day, everyone was exhausted
and she was sitting.
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And he walked up to her and took this photo.
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It fell apart, didn't it?
She stopped being Marilyn for 15 seconds.
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Because being Marilyn was an effort.
306
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Dick saw it and was moved
307
00:20:40,197 --> 00:20:44,118
because it was the photographic contradiction
which he loved.
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They call that photo "Sad Marilyn."
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What you see is Norma Jeane,
the person behind the photo.
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and reach out to that person
It takes a whole day of session.
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That's how Dick worked.
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People maybe think
that was a coincidence.
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Not at all.
314
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Nothing is coincidental in Avedon's photos.
315
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Photography is marriage
of imagination and reality.
316
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I don't think they can separate.
Everything mixes.
317
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Each photo is exact,
but none of them are the truth.
318
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We all want
look good and feel good.
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{\an8}He's not looking for that.
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{\an8}Look for a deeper sensitivity,
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{\an8}an explosive moment
of human nature.
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That great concern
for the image versus reality
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It obsessed him all his life.
324
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Tell me who this woman is.
Where is your throat?
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You understand?
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The hair, the head?
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- It must be very romantic.
- Yes.
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And very beautiful.
329
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Everything was important.
330
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{\an8}The session and the photo were important.
And you too.
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Not that it should be me,
but I must be someone.
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We will decide who as…
333
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- Yes.
-…let's look at each photo.
334
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I remember the first time
that I entered the studio.
335
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I did everything he asked of me.
336
00:22:10,412 --> 00:22:14,875
Dick told me:
"Look at the camera," and stood next to it.
337
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And he said, "Jump."
338
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And I: "Let him jump?"
339
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Nothing worked. He was frustrated.
340
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And he got very nervous.
341
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Sorry. don't do that
in front of me when I work.
342
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He was like an athlete.
343
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Obsessed with perfection.
"Do it again. Once more. Again."
344
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We wanted to do the best possible.
345
00:22:37,272 --> 00:22:41,734
He was a perfectionist. I wanted the best.
He obsessed over every detail.
346
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Just like every great artist.
347
00:22:43,862 --> 00:22:48,324
I had to look inside myself,
in my essence.
348
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And that's when I saw it come to life.
349
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When I connected with myself,
and he said, "I love it! Beautiful!"
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It is a deeply intimate moment.
351
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Two strangers trying to achieve something,
hiding and surrendering.
352
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When that happens in front of the camera,
beauty is in its vulnerability.
353
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{\an8}I was a peculiar girl
with skinny legs...
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{\an8}MODEL
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…and male hair.
356
00:23:28,115 --> 00:23:30,950
{\an8}Working with Richard Avedon was incredible.
357
00:23:30,951 --> 00:23:32,368
{\an8}He was like a magician.
358
00:23:32,369 --> 00:23:36,622
He took some beautiful photos of me.
359
00:23:36,623 --> 00:23:40,461
She looked like a woman
instead of a weird teenager.
360
00:23:43,130 --> 00:23:46,090
When I was 16, the phone rang.
361
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{\an8}I answered it and a hoarse voice told me...
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{\an8}MODEL
363
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{\an8}"Hello, Penelope. This is Diana Vreeland
from Vogue.
364
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{\an8}Would you like to come and do some tests?
with Dick Avedon?"
365
00:24:00,981 --> 00:24:03,774
A week later,
was at the bottom of paper
366
00:24:03,775 --> 00:24:05,736
from Dick Avedon's studio.
367
00:24:08,238 --> 00:24:10,615
Being close to Dick,
368
00:24:10,616 --> 00:24:14,619
you felt an energy
that made you give your best.
369
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You felt like you were
in the presence of an artist.
370
00:24:17,414 --> 00:24:20,375
You had to live up to it.
371
00:24:21,293 --> 00:24:26,047
Then I perfected my photos
of girls in motion.
372
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Like this. Yes. Beautiful.
373
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That was due
because I was always interested in ballet.
374
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Wonderful.
375
00:24:35,057 --> 00:24:37,266
{\an8}I remember a photo of a model…
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CHOREOGRAPHER
377
00:24:38,185 --> 00:24:40,186
{\an8}I don't know who he is. I should know.
378
00:24:40,187 --> 00:24:44,815
He has long legs, of course,
and is leaning to one side.
379
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And you can see the braid on the other side.
380
00:24:48,362 --> 00:24:52,657
It's falling and he caught it
at the right time.
381
00:24:52,658 --> 00:24:55,993
Still maintains the posture,
but he's about to lose it.
382
00:24:55,994 --> 00:25:02,000
And what makes that photo work
It is not the movement, but the braid.
383
00:25:03,627 --> 00:25:06,671
He knew we had to balance
the movement.
384
00:25:06,672 --> 00:25:08,714
It wasn't just any pose.
385
00:25:08,715 --> 00:25:10,801
There had to be a structure.
386
00:25:12,052 --> 00:25:16,181
That's what's extraordinary
of some of his works.
387
00:25:16,765 --> 00:25:18,934
He managed to freeze the movement.
388
00:25:20,686 --> 00:25:21,644
Everything ready?
389
00:25:21,645 --> 00:25:24,606
Dick made his assistant
held the light.
390
00:25:25,524 --> 00:25:26,732
Stay like this.
391
00:25:26,733 --> 00:25:32,488
He had to follow me wherever I went,
jump or dance.
392
00:25:32,489 --> 00:25:36,576
There is a photo of Richard
Trying to show me what he wanted.
393
00:25:36,577 --> 00:25:39,829
He looks like an elf and I look like an elf.
394
00:25:39,830 --> 00:25:40,789
Cut.
395
00:25:42,499 --> 00:25:46,836
Dick was always looking for excitement and fun.
396
00:25:46,837 --> 00:25:49,130
{\an8}And he had great psychological intuition...
397
00:25:49,131 --> 00:25:50,047
{\an8}CURATOR
398
00:25:50,048 --> 00:25:52,592
{\an8}…a way to connect with others
at that level.
399
00:25:52,593 --> 00:25:54,428
{\an8}And when he did, wow!
400
00:26:00,517 --> 00:26:02,060
This photo…
401
00:26:03,812 --> 00:26:08,275
I think he took it
in one of the first sessions.
402
00:26:10,319 --> 00:26:14,990
I was a girl
that he felt like a weirdo.
403
00:26:16,283 --> 00:26:19,619
He was sitting on the floor
with legs crossed.
404
00:26:19,620 --> 00:26:22,289
He looked at me through the lens
405
00:26:22,789 --> 00:26:29,087
and I felt that, for the first time,
Someone saw me as I am.
406
00:26:30,213 --> 00:26:35,052
He managed to express
407
00:26:35,802 --> 00:26:37,887
what I kept inside me.
408
00:26:37,888 --> 00:26:42,058
I think some of these photos
They caught that.
409
00:26:42,059 --> 00:26:44,061
It was a wonderful feeling.
410
00:26:45,062 --> 00:26:48,732
Alienation and isolation
They are central themes of his work.
411
00:26:49,524 --> 00:26:52,819
Want to know what's going on
inside the human being.
412
00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:55,780
And he's obsessed with it.
413
00:26:55,781 --> 00:26:58,367
He can't contain himself. He has to do it.
414
00:26:59,242 --> 00:27:02,329
I remember when Doe told me
who had fallen in love with another.
415
00:27:03,914 --> 00:27:06,374
And what was he like?
416
00:27:06,375 --> 00:27:10,044
He was almost 1.90 m tall
and it was everything that I was not,
417
00:27:10,045 --> 00:27:14,799
a blond and muscular actor
that she had known.
418
00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:15,716
I collapsed.
419
00:27:15,717 --> 00:27:21,098
I would have gone on my knees to the Bronx
in order to get Doe back.
420
00:27:21,848 --> 00:27:27,061
Dick's life was not easy.
Everything was very intense.
421
00:27:27,062 --> 00:27:30,606
In a way,
His whole life was an existential crisis.
422
00:27:30,607 --> 00:27:31,817
Living like this is not easy.
423
00:27:32,651 --> 00:27:37,698
I am attracted to anyone who shows
some kind of vulnerability.
424
00:27:38,407 --> 00:27:42,702
And when I face
to an impenetrable wall,
425
00:27:42,703 --> 00:27:46,373
I take distance
and I photograph it as it is.
426
00:27:47,332 --> 00:27:54,172
Something that always moves me
It is the complexity.
427
00:27:56,508 --> 00:27:58,927
He wanted to give a message.
428
00:28:00,137 --> 00:28:03,639
I learned from Dick
to surround myself with younger people
429
00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:08,018
to feel alive,
keep up and never grow old.
430
00:28:08,019 --> 00:28:13,190
With Martha, my wife,
Every morning we heard the phone.
431
00:28:13,191 --> 00:28:15,901
It was the era of the answering machine.
432
00:28:15,902 --> 00:28:19,071
We heard a voice saying:
"Martha, Adam, it's Dick.
433
00:28:19,072 --> 00:28:23,075
Don't answer.
Something very interesting happened last night.
434
00:28:23,076 --> 00:28:25,578
We went to see Mandy Patinkin. It's great.
435
00:28:25,579 --> 00:28:30,082
Let's go to dinner at the River Café tonight
and then to see Mandy."
436
00:28:30,083 --> 00:28:33,669
And when we got home
almost midnight
437
00:28:33,670 --> 00:28:35,421
the phone rang again.
438
00:28:35,422 --> 00:28:39,718
"Adam, Martha, it's Dick. Don't answer.
I had a very interesting idea."
439
00:28:40,302 --> 00:28:42,679
Good. How do we start?
440
00:28:43,263 --> 00:28:45,724
We could meet up, right?
441
00:28:47,184 --> 00:28:48,142
Good.
442
00:28:48,143 --> 00:28:51,103
In the studio, they were like a family.
443
00:28:51,104 --> 00:28:55,524
Dick always encouraged
that family belonging in their group.
444
00:28:55,525 --> 00:28:58,695
His assistants were his children,
in a way.
445
00:28:59,321 --> 00:29:02,907
{\an8}What mattered was that connection.
446
00:29:02,908 --> 00:29:04,575
{\an8}Attendees earn little.
447
00:29:04,576 --> 00:29:07,286
{\an8}But I spent a lot of time in the studio.
448
00:29:07,287 --> 00:29:08,454
{\an8}PHOTOGRAPHER AND FORMER ASSISTANT
449
00:29:08,455 --> 00:29:12,875
{\an8}From 8:00 a.m. to 7:00 p.m. m. to 8:00 p.m. m.
on weekends.
450
00:29:12,876 --> 00:29:14,377
Do you see it in focus?
451
00:29:14,878 --> 00:29:16,212
I want to be sure.
452
00:29:16,213 --> 00:29:22,259
When Avedon hired you,
You had to focus on what he needed.
453
00:29:22,260 --> 00:29:23,094
More.
454
00:29:24,471 --> 00:29:25,347
Stay like this.
455
00:29:27,724 --> 00:29:32,521
The assistants were in charge
of the technical aspects and execution.
456
00:29:33,188 --> 00:29:35,272
He was not technical at all.
457
00:29:35,273 --> 00:29:40,444
The camera was there,
but he concentrated on his model.
458
00:29:40,445 --> 00:29:43,490
The light hits your eyes.
I like the eyes, yes.
459
00:29:43,990 --> 00:29:45,784
And the brains.
460
00:29:46,618 --> 00:29:47,786
Well, let's go.
461
00:29:53,458 --> 00:29:58,087
It was fascinating to see
how he connected with his models
462
00:29:58,088 --> 00:30:05,011
and how he communicated
and I got them to express things.
463
00:30:06,805 --> 00:30:07,681
Yes.
464
00:30:08,265 --> 00:30:09,849
A little evil. That.
465
00:30:09,850 --> 00:30:11,518
But mischievous. Yes.
466
00:30:31,413 --> 00:30:35,207
I think it was always considered
a fashion photographer,
467
00:30:35,208 --> 00:30:40,921
But, seeing what he was focusing on
and what excited him the most,
468
00:30:40,922 --> 00:30:45,259
I realized that he loved it
portray people.
469
00:30:45,260 --> 00:30:50,181
The creative artists
and the people he admired.
470
00:30:51,808 --> 00:30:56,520
I'm only interested
who seem interesting to me.
471
00:30:56,521 --> 00:30:57,438
10 ROLLS 120 B/W
472
00:30:57,439 --> 00:31:01,942
I don't think children are cute.
I find them very boring.
473
00:31:01,943 --> 00:31:06,072
But, when someone interests me,
I want to know everything about that person.
474
00:31:06,573 --> 00:31:08,908
I wanted to meet everyone.
475
00:31:08,909 --> 00:31:12,494
He wanted to rub shoulders
with anyone who was important.
476
00:31:12,495 --> 00:31:14,372
I also think that…
477
00:31:16,875 --> 00:31:22,547
Dick enjoyed showing
to the famous in another way.
478
00:31:23,965 --> 00:31:25,216
The comedians,
479
00:31:25,717 --> 00:31:27,260
opera stars,
480
00:31:27,761 --> 00:31:28,762
the singers.
481
00:31:29,638 --> 00:31:34,184
Screams, screams,
an emotion taken to the extreme.
482
00:31:34,768 --> 00:31:38,271
The portraits of Buster Keaton
and Humphrey Bogart.
483
00:31:38,939 --> 00:31:41,066
That was what attracted me.
484
00:31:41,733 --> 00:31:44,068
The photography process itself
485
00:31:44,069 --> 00:31:49,615
it opens a window to someone's soul,
or maybe a secret door.
486
00:31:49,616 --> 00:31:52,701
{\an8}When you stand in front of the camera
of Avedon,
487
00:31:52,702 --> 00:31:54,745
{\an8}You don't just pose for a portrait...
488
00:31:54,746 --> 00:31:55,663
{\an8}WRITER
489
00:31:55,664 --> 00:31:59,542
{\an8}…but you seek what he sees in you.
490
00:32:00,669 --> 00:32:04,463
Tension is very important
in my photography.
491
00:32:04,464 --> 00:32:08,342
That tension is not achieved with the camera.
492
00:32:08,343 --> 00:32:12,096
It's what happens
between the model and the photographer.
493
00:32:12,097 --> 00:32:15,975
My father was charming
and friendly in public.
494
00:32:15,976 --> 00:32:18,478
Above!
495
00:32:19,771 --> 00:32:20,981
Who goes first?
496
00:32:21,731 --> 00:32:22,983
A funny man.
497
00:32:24,192 --> 00:32:25,651
But in private,
498
00:32:25,652 --> 00:32:31,490
was a man
I was lost and very scared.
499
00:32:31,491 --> 00:32:36,121
He sat down to listen to the games
and he hardly spoke.
500
00:32:36,788 --> 00:32:39,790
Avedon realized who he really was.
501
00:32:39,791 --> 00:32:40,833
That's me.
502
00:32:40,834 --> 00:32:43,628
That is, everything comes from me.
503
00:32:44,421 --> 00:32:46,631
I have a double personality.
504
00:32:47,132 --> 00:32:51,802
I have a great capacity
to enjoy life
505
00:32:51,803 --> 00:32:55,098
without denying my darker side.
506
00:32:56,099 --> 00:32:58,643
I guess I use my models
507
00:32:59,352 --> 00:33:02,896
to convey some feeling
What I want to express.
508
00:33:02,897 --> 00:33:05,607
We had the same German psychoanalyst,
509
00:33:05,608 --> 00:33:08,945
that seemed out
from a Woody Allen movie.
510
00:33:09,988 --> 00:33:15,325
Dr. Kleinschmidt believed that art
and creativity were aggressive acts.
511
00:33:15,326 --> 00:33:18,371
That artists were narcissistic lunatics.
512
00:33:18,955 --> 00:33:21,666
I think Dick
He always took that seriously.
513
00:33:22,834 --> 00:33:25,836
He had a very famous close friend.
514
00:33:25,837 --> 00:33:30,049
The wife, also famous,
she wanted Dick to photograph her.
515
00:33:30,050 --> 00:33:32,885
{\an8}And he always made some excuse.
516
00:33:32,886 --> 00:33:36,305
{\an8}Our friends asked him:
"Why don't you do it?"
517
00:33:36,306 --> 00:33:38,182
{\an8}"He asked you three times."
518
00:33:38,183 --> 00:33:41,394
{\an8}And Dick said, "Because he would know
what I think of her."
519
00:33:43,354 --> 00:33:45,189
And it left me cold.
520
00:33:45,190 --> 00:33:49,069
Dick never portrayed me.
I hope it wasn't for that.
521
00:33:50,904 --> 00:33:56,076
Why do you like that aesthetic?
formal and sophisticated mug shot?
522
00:33:56,576 --> 00:33:59,328
I don't know, but I love it.
523
00:33:59,329 --> 00:34:02,873
I find beautiful lighting offensive.
524
00:34:02,874 --> 00:34:07,337
Like Rembrandt's style.
It tells you: "Look at my enlightenment."
525
00:34:08,088 --> 00:34:10,005
The photos that move me the most
526
00:34:10,006 --> 00:34:15,637
They don't let anything get in the way
between the viewer and the sitter.
527
00:34:16,429 --> 00:34:20,974
You always use a white background.
Why is it so important to you?
528
00:34:20,975 --> 00:34:23,352
It is the existential target.
529
00:34:23,353 --> 00:34:26,856
The only thing that is seen
It is the geography of the face.
530
00:34:27,482 --> 00:34:29,316
Art consists of eliminating things
531
00:34:29,317 --> 00:34:34,822
to transmit with more strength and power
what the artist wants to express.
532
00:34:34,823 --> 00:34:39,118
Once, I fasted for three days
with a friend.
533
00:34:39,119 --> 00:34:44,082
At the end, we had to decide
how we would break the fast.
534
00:34:45,125 --> 00:34:46,959
We decided on a peach.
535
00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:49,670
I have never tasted a peach like this.
536
00:34:49,671 --> 00:34:53,590
After the fast, everything took on a different value.
537
00:34:53,591 --> 00:34:56,302
It's a bit like removing the background.
538
00:34:57,178 --> 00:35:00,722
I remember going to his house
and we shared a beautiful brunch.
539
00:35:00,723 --> 00:35:03,977
{\an8}There were only hard-boiled eggs and champagne.
540
00:35:06,729 --> 00:35:08,313
{\an8}He was a little…
541
00:35:08,314 --> 00:35:10,691
{\an8}If you liked something...
542
00:35:10,692 --> 00:35:15,655
To me, that reflected her purity,
in a way.
543
00:35:16,156 --> 00:35:17,906
He reduced everything to the essentials.
544
00:35:17,907 --> 00:35:21,410
There was nothing else
than hard-boiled eggs and champagne.
545
00:35:21,411 --> 00:35:23,496
And I thought it was very elegant.
546
00:35:24,622 --> 00:35:26,373
If you can do without something, do it.
547
00:35:26,374 --> 00:35:29,669
Don't put anything
that it is not there for a reason.
548
00:35:31,087 --> 00:35:33,964
Your photos don't have captions.
549
00:35:33,965 --> 00:35:36,967
It doesn't matter where the photo was taken.
550
00:35:36,968 --> 00:35:41,347
nor that one is an author and the other is a politician.
551
00:35:41,848 --> 00:35:46,853
What interests me about who I portray
It's that something else unites them.
552
00:35:48,104 --> 00:35:49,063
What thing?
553
00:35:53,651 --> 00:35:56,487
You don't want me to say
the human condition, right?
554
00:36:10,210 --> 00:36:15,465
In my second marriage,
with Evelyn in charge of the house,
555
00:36:16,382 --> 00:36:19,552
I felt much less alone.
556
00:36:20,136 --> 00:36:24,014
But living with me is difficult.
Artists are complicated.
557
00:36:24,015 --> 00:36:27,601
And my wife Evelyn,
Over the years,
558
00:36:27,602 --> 00:36:30,312
everything has endured me
I won't even tell you.
559
00:36:30,313 --> 00:36:33,565
I think they were very in love
when they got married.
560
00:36:33,566 --> 00:36:39,447
And she was a very beautiful woman,
very intelligent and affectionate.
561
00:36:41,908 --> 00:36:47,287
But my mother was very different from him.
She was extremely shy.
562
00:36:47,288 --> 00:36:49,916
So the engine of the family
It was my father.
563
00:36:50,792 --> 00:36:53,627
He lived fatherhood with great intensity.
564
00:36:53,628 --> 00:36:56,171
And he wanted to be very close to his son.
565
00:36:56,172 --> 00:36:59,967
because he had had
a distant relationship with his father.
566
00:36:59,968 --> 00:37:04,638
My son said I never cared about them
your school grades.
567
00:37:04,639 --> 00:37:07,725
And I think there's nothing wrong with that.
568
00:37:08,226 --> 00:37:12,604
My father was very demanding in academics.
569
00:37:12,605 --> 00:37:15,608
Every day, when I go to school,
He told me: "Be creative!"
570
00:37:16,192 --> 00:37:21,072
I wanted to show him the best of me.
571
00:37:22,073 --> 00:37:24,866
Dick was not an unstable person.
572
00:37:24,867 --> 00:37:27,494
He had the values of a man
573
00:37:27,495 --> 00:37:31,832
for whom to earn a living,
take care of your family
574
00:37:31,833 --> 00:37:35,503
and leave a legacy to your children
They were very important things.
575
00:37:36,754 --> 00:37:41,259
But I worked all the time
and was never present.
576
00:37:42,218 --> 00:37:46,723
There wasn't much domestic life at home.
577
00:37:47,307 --> 00:37:51,226
With my son John,
there is 30 years difference.
578
00:37:51,227 --> 00:37:54,688
And between father and son there is something
which is not exactly distance,
579
00:37:54,689 --> 00:37:57,190
but that exists in that type of relationship.
580
00:37:57,191 --> 00:38:00,153
They will always be father and son.
They will never be friends.
581
00:38:01,321 --> 00:38:07,327
I think the first memory of my father
It was on Fire Island.
582
00:38:08,161 --> 00:38:13,707
He put me in front of him
in a garden full of flowers,
583
00:38:13,708 --> 00:38:16,335
but I knew we were intruders.
584
00:38:16,336 --> 00:38:17,377
And I was scared.
585
00:38:17,378 --> 00:38:20,088
He wanted to photograph me with the flowers.
586
00:38:20,089 --> 00:38:22,884
Since then,
I held a grudge against the photographers.
587
00:38:24,677 --> 00:38:29,890
I thought they were manipulative
and they did what they wanted with you.
588
00:38:29,891 --> 00:38:32,352
And that resentment did not go away.
589
00:38:33,102 --> 00:38:36,146
I take life and work
like a challenge.
590
00:38:36,147 --> 00:38:38,106
What if things go wrong?
591
00:38:38,107 --> 00:38:42,695
I carry it so deep inside that every time
592
00:38:43,196 --> 00:38:48,034
represents a stimulating challenge,
funny and sometimes profound.
593
00:38:49,035 --> 00:38:51,828
He had blind confidence in himself.
594
00:38:51,829 --> 00:38:54,748
At the same time, I was very insecure.
595
00:38:54,749 --> 00:38:59,294
I suffered a lot from the pressure
of having to show off, but he gave it his all.
596
00:38:59,295 --> 00:39:01,464
Well, follow the path.
597
00:39:02,632 --> 00:39:05,675
I think I needed that anxiety
to be able to perform.
598
00:39:05,676 --> 00:39:11,515
My whole life I lived with anxiety and stress.
599
00:39:11,516 --> 00:39:15,019
Now I know I was so addicted to it
like coffee.
600
00:39:29,158 --> 00:39:33,912
It's the only thing left
from the 1952 session with Charlie Chaplin:
601
00:39:33,913 --> 00:39:36,457
four contact sheets
and four negatives.
602
00:39:37,417 --> 00:39:39,293
The curious thing about Chaplin's session...
603
00:39:40,878 --> 00:39:45,298
It's just that I didn't even know what I was going to do.
before doing it.
604
00:39:45,299 --> 00:39:50,680
And yet, it is the best example
of my style at that time.
605
00:39:51,264 --> 00:39:54,641
I told him what I wanted to do
a kind of passport photo.
606
00:39:54,642 --> 00:39:55,559
And that's what I did.
607
00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:59,480
And, when I finished, he told me:
"Now can I make one?"
608
00:40:00,189 --> 00:40:04,443
He lowered his head
and, when he picked it up, he had a frown on his face.
609
00:40:04,444 --> 00:40:06,529
and he made those horns with his hands.
610
00:40:07,613 --> 00:40:09,656
He said, "No, I'll do it again."
611
00:40:09,657 --> 00:40:12,243
He lowered his head
and he picked it up again smiling.
612
00:40:12,743 --> 00:40:13,786
And that was it.
613
00:40:14,370 --> 00:40:17,873
Are you a member of the communist conspiracy
at this moment?
614
00:40:17,874 --> 00:40:21,418
At that time,
They persecuted him for his political ideas,
615
00:40:21,419 --> 00:40:22,795
like many others.
616
00:40:23,379 --> 00:40:25,922
The next day, the headlines said
617
00:40:25,923 --> 00:40:28,842
that Chaplin
he had hidden from justice.
618
00:40:28,843 --> 00:40:31,553
I think the IRS was looking for it.
619
00:40:31,554 --> 00:40:33,889
He hid in my study,
620
00:40:33,890 --> 00:40:36,558
got on the Queen Mary
621
00:40:36,559 --> 00:40:39,728
and fled the country.
622
00:40:39,729 --> 00:40:45,151
In the end, that photo was
his last message to the United States.
623
00:40:46,652 --> 00:40:49,905
{\an8}The rebellious air of that photo...
624
00:40:49,906 --> 00:40:50,822
{\an8}WRITER
625
00:40:50,823 --> 00:40:55,660
{\an8}…revealed Dick's inner world to me.
626
00:40:55,661 --> 00:41:01,208
Even though he is the darling of fashion
and part of the system,
627
00:41:01,209 --> 00:41:06,756
he didn't feel comfortable
and used it for his own purposes.
628
00:41:11,260 --> 00:41:15,056
This is Marian Anderson,
a great American soprano.
629
00:41:16,390 --> 00:41:22,980
The Daughters of the American Revolution
They forbade her to sing because she was black.
630
00:41:28,903 --> 00:41:32,822
{\an8}Anderson was a cultural figure,
historic and revolutionary,
631
00:41:32,823 --> 00:41:39,580
{\an8}and embodied many of the beliefs
and Avedon values.
632
00:41:42,124 --> 00:41:45,711
In 1955, he photographed Marian Anderson.
633
00:41:46,379 --> 00:41:51,466
A decade later, he took the 1963 photo,
634
00:41:51,467 --> 00:41:55,220
titled The Generals of the Daughters
of the American Revolution,
635
00:41:55,221 --> 00:41:58,348
at the Mayflower Hotel.
636
00:41:58,349 --> 00:42:01,851
The photo that Avedon chose to publish
637
00:42:01,852 --> 00:42:08,776
reflects perfectly
the institutional racism of that period.
638
00:42:10,111 --> 00:42:11,695
{\an8}It's a strange image,
639
00:42:11,696 --> 00:42:14,155
{\an8}because they pose together and proud...
640
00:42:14,156 --> 00:42:15,156
{\an8}PHOTOGRAPHER
641
00:42:15,157 --> 00:42:16,075
{\an8}…before Avedon.
642
00:42:16,659 --> 00:42:21,705
But there is a figure in the center
who has his back to the camera.
643
00:42:21,706 --> 00:42:26,501
Avedon seemed to want to capture them
in an inglorious moment.
644
00:42:26,502 --> 00:42:31,506
I guess it wasn't what they had in mind.
by allowing himself to be photographed by Richard Avedon.
645
00:42:31,507 --> 00:42:34,885
I guess. I don't know what they had in mind.
646
00:42:36,387 --> 00:42:40,516
{\an8}He pushed the limits.
I wanted to see how far it would go.
647
00:42:41,183 --> 00:42:44,770
You create something, you don't just grasp it.
648
00:42:45,271 --> 00:42:48,941
{\an8}In time, Avedon learned
how much he could push the limits.
649
00:42:49,609 --> 00:42:52,694
As far as I know, he was the first person
650
00:42:52,695 --> 00:42:56,991
in introducing and expanding
the concept of beauty,
651
00:42:58,242 --> 00:43:02,580
after portraying China Machado,
a beautiful model of Asian descent.
652
00:43:03,164 --> 00:43:05,332
He worked with Harper's Bazaar
653
00:43:05,333 --> 00:43:09,419
and they didn't want to post the photos
in the magazine.
654
00:43:09,420 --> 00:43:13,673
{\an8}He told them that if they didn't publish the photos,
655
00:43:13,674 --> 00:43:16,593
{\an8}would break the contract
and I would stop working with them.
656
00:43:16,594 --> 00:43:19,388
He stood his ground and they published the photo.
657
00:43:20,264 --> 00:43:23,099
And she had a great career.
658
00:43:23,100 --> 00:43:25,478
He defended his principles.
659
00:43:26,062 --> 00:43:29,105
Machado's photo
with cigarettes it's incredible.
660
00:43:29,106 --> 00:43:32,484
Their body language, clothes...
661
00:43:32,485 --> 00:43:35,821
She's a little naughty. It's perfect.
662
00:43:36,322 --> 00:43:37,572
BLACK CINDERELLA
663
00:43:37,573 --> 00:43:38,824
He saw the future.
664
00:43:39,533 --> 00:43:42,535
China Machado, Donyale Luna.
665
00:43:42,536 --> 00:43:46,206
It was very clear
what I wanted to contribute to the pages
666
00:43:46,207 --> 00:43:49,460
and how I wanted to expand our ideas.
667
00:43:50,586 --> 00:43:52,754
{\an8}Dick had a very profound facet.
668
00:43:52,755 --> 00:43:56,758
He really cared about humanity.
and all its manifestations…
669
00:43:56,759 --> 00:43:57,676
{\an8}FREEDOM NOW
670
00:43:57,677 --> 00:44:00,262
{\an8}…with almost brutal honesty at times.
671
00:44:01,514 --> 00:44:02,639
NOTHING PERSONAL
672
00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:04,933
He wanted to do a political book.
673
00:44:04,934 --> 00:44:08,269
I prefer to die
on the roads of Alabama
674
00:44:08,270 --> 00:44:10,106
rather than betray my conscience.
675
00:44:14,568 --> 00:44:19,072
In 1963, civil rights
they were the central theme of the US.
676
00:44:19,073 --> 00:44:20,490
SOUTHERN CHRISTIAN LEADERSHIP
677
00:44:20,491 --> 00:44:23,536
And how is that represented in a photo?
678
00:44:24,870 --> 00:44:26,580
Joe Louis' fist.
679
00:44:27,289 --> 00:44:29,874
Louis hits him with a strong right hand to the chin.
680
00:44:29,875 --> 00:44:32,293
The fight is over.
681
00:44:32,294 --> 00:44:33,503
This is Malcolm X…
682
00:44:33,504 --> 00:44:35,463
In "the land of the free",
683
00:44:35,464 --> 00:44:38,216
there are 20 million black people
that they are not free.
684
00:44:38,217 --> 00:44:43,973
…purposely blurred to convey
the emotional charge of the moment.
685
00:44:45,182 --> 00:44:47,559
And this is William Casby,
686
00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:50,979
a man born into slavery
and taken to Louisiana,
687
00:44:50,980 --> 00:44:54,733
{\an8}with such great offspring
that could fill a town.
688
00:44:54,734 --> 00:44:57,193
Segregation now, segregation...
689
00:44:57,194 --> 00:45:00,196
George Wallace,
Alabama's racist governor
690
00:45:00,197 --> 00:45:02,991
which prohibited students
go to university.
691
00:45:02,992 --> 00:45:04,033
{\an8}LET'S MOVE FORWARD
692
00:45:04,034 --> 00:45:07,495
{\an8}His moral and political convictions
They were very real.
693
00:45:07,496 --> 00:45:10,039
He portrayed the Coordinating Committee
Nonviolent Student
694
00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:14,794
and was very inspired
in the idealism of those young people.
695
00:45:14,795 --> 00:45:18,339
When he came back,
I was ten years old, and I saw him euphoric.
696
00:45:18,340 --> 00:45:20,592
I had never seen him like this.
697
00:45:20,593 --> 00:45:26,181
His idealism and his struggle
They had transformed it.
698
00:45:26,182 --> 00:45:32,228
Six children were murdered
a sunday in birmingham
699
00:45:32,229 --> 00:45:36,149
in sunday school
of a Christian nation.
700
00:45:36,150 --> 00:45:37,818
And nobody cares.
701
00:45:39,403 --> 00:45:44,991
Dick always recognized talent
and the real greatness of others.
702
00:45:44,992 --> 00:45:51,665
He understood the importance of James Baldwin
earlier than most people.
703
00:45:55,503 --> 00:45:57,754
I went to a public high school in New York
704
00:45:57,755 --> 00:46:01,634
and I was co-editor of the school magazine
with James Baldwin.
705
00:46:02,635 --> 00:46:04,762
I spent a lot of time in Harlem with him.
706
00:46:05,346 --> 00:46:09,933
When Baldwin was in high school,
went to visit the Avedons
707
00:46:09,934 --> 00:46:12,645
and the goalkeeper sent him
through the service entrance.
708
00:46:13,145 --> 00:46:15,022
Took the service elevator
709
00:46:15,606 --> 00:46:19,150
{\an8}and knocked on the back door
of the apartment.
710
00:46:19,151 --> 00:46:24,447
Anna Avedon, his mother,
He said, "Jimmy, why are you here?"
711
00:46:24,448 --> 00:46:30,161
And he said, "The doorman sent me this way."
712
00:46:30,162 --> 00:46:34,500
She touched the elevator button
and asked him: "Was it him?"
713
00:46:35,334 --> 00:46:39,462
And he hit him and said:
"He is our friend.
714
00:46:39,463 --> 00:46:45,177
Don't send anyone again
through the service entrance".
715
00:46:46,220 --> 00:46:48,388
Time passed.
716
00:46:48,389 --> 00:46:51,099
And each one became famous in their own way.
717
00:46:51,100 --> 00:46:54,519
{\an8}American writer James Baldwin
arrived in London
718
00:46:54,520 --> 00:46:57,063
{\an8}to present the paperback edition
of his novel.
719
00:46:57,064 --> 00:47:00,191
Baldwin got involved
in a type of activism
720
00:47:00,192 --> 00:47:04,405
that became so important to him
like the written word.
721
00:47:05,281 --> 00:47:07,949
Nobody can withstand so many blows,
so much anguish,
722
00:47:07,950 --> 00:47:10,285
so many broken promises,
723
00:47:10,286 --> 00:47:12,121
without something breaking.
724
00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:19,210
LETTER FROM A PRISONER
725
00:47:19,211 --> 00:47:24,674
Dick was commissioned to paint a portrait.
of James Baldwin, his old friend.
726
00:47:24,675 --> 00:47:28,219
Baldwin was a writer and Dick was a photographer.
727
00:47:28,220 --> 00:47:31,640
And Dick combined those two elements.
728
00:47:39,565 --> 00:47:41,649
Could everyone please come?
729
00:47:41,650 --> 00:47:46,614
So we move on to the round of questions
with Mr. Avedon.
730
00:47:47,781 --> 00:47:49,116
What is the name of the book?
731
00:47:49,700 --> 00:47:51,452
It's called Nothing personal.
732
00:48:00,544 --> 00:48:03,004
The text is by James Baldwin.
733
00:48:03,005 --> 00:48:06,634
It is a really very beautiful text.
734
00:48:07,676 --> 00:48:10,179
There is a section dedicated to…
735
00:48:11,388 --> 00:48:14,433
Bellevue, I think, or some other institution.
736
00:48:15,017 --> 00:48:18,102
It must have been a terrifying experience.
737
00:48:18,103 --> 00:48:19,771
It was something terrible,
738
00:48:19,772 --> 00:48:23,150
but it was essential that that section
had a lot of strength.
739
00:48:30,866 --> 00:48:33,535
Talking about it was not easy.
740
00:48:34,954 --> 00:48:39,166
The beauty of my sister, Louise,
It changed everything.
741
00:48:40,376 --> 00:48:42,419
We photographed her a lot.
742
00:48:43,921 --> 00:48:45,672
She was very shy.
743
00:48:45,673 --> 00:48:46,839
Look at his legs.
744
00:48:46,840 --> 00:48:49,842
Those legs do not convey security.
745
00:48:49,843 --> 00:48:54,138
Dick said his sister was beautiful,
but fragile and tormented.
746
00:48:54,139 --> 00:48:57,351
Psychologically tormented.
747
00:48:58,060 --> 00:49:04,149
That kind of beauty is so isolating
like genius or a hump.
748
00:49:04,942 --> 00:49:10,447
My mother told him: "With skin like that,
You don't need to open your mouth."
749
00:49:11,448 --> 00:49:14,368
And in the end he didn't open his mouth anymore,
750
00:49:15,536 --> 00:49:18,747
she became catatonic
and died in a psychiatric hospital.
751
00:49:21,125 --> 00:49:24,086
I was the one who said:
"Louise, you look beautiful."
752
00:49:24,753 --> 00:49:27,171
I think it was partly my fault.
753
00:49:27,172 --> 00:49:29,717
And it was the photography's fault too.
754
00:49:30,217 --> 00:49:35,389
He believed that the image that was imposed on him
It drove his sister crazy.
755
00:49:37,099 --> 00:49:38,976
It was the prison of beauty.
756
00:49:43,939 --> 00:49:47,484
He wanted to photograph things that scared him.
757
00:49:48,652 --> 00:49:54,867
And I feel like it's one of the photos
scariest that one can imagine.
758
00:49:56,160 --> 00:49:59,412
I photograph psychiatric hospitals
so that we pay attention,
759
00:49:59,413 --> 00:50:03,292
so that we know
that in every family there are problems.
760
00:50:03,792 --> 00:50:07,670
My dad never visited his sister Louise,
but he paid everything.
761
00:50:07,671 --> 00:50:11,841
However, her mother, Anna,
He visited her constantly.
762
00:50:11,842 --> 00:50:15,636
I think he knew how to protect himself
against tragedy
763
00:50:15,637 --> 00:50:18,182
to be able to do what I wanted.
764
00:50:19,683 --> 00:50:26,731
He wanted his book to end.
with something transcendent or hopeful.
765
00:50:26,732 --> 00:50:28,984
And today I understand it better than anyone.
766
00:50:31,236 --> 00:50:36,450
James Baldwin wrote a beautiful text
which says: "Nothing is permanent.
767
00:50:37,034 --> 00:50:40,995
Forever and ever,
Nothing is ever permanent.
768
00:50:40,996 --> 00:50:42,955
The Earth always moves.
769
00:50:42,956 --> 00:50:45,041
The light always changes.
770
00:50:45,042 --> 00:50:48,753
The sea does not stop wearing away the rock.
771
00:50:48,754 --> 00:50:51,465
Generations do not stop being born.
772
00:50:52,299 --> 00:50:57,137
And we owe it to them
because we are its only witnesses."
773
00:50:59,139 --> 00:51:03,226
{\an8}There was fierce criticism
in The New York Review of Books
774
00:51:03,227 --> 00:51:05,978
who said they profited
775
00:51:05,979 --> 00:51:11,025
with racial misfortunes,
foreign economic and psychological
776
00:51:11,026 --> 00:51:15,822
to serve as chic emissaries
from the battle front.
777
00:51:15,823 --> 00:51:18,032
That hurt him deeply.
778
00:51:18,033 --> 00:51:20,076
That criticism destroyed him.
779
00:51:20,077 --> 00:51:22,703
He took it to heart.
780
00:51:22,704 --> 00:51:26,582
That criticism made me stop working
about a year
781
00:51:26,583 --> 00:51:29,753
because I started to question myself
as an artist.
782
00:51:30,254 --> 00:51:31,672
It was devastating.
783
00:51:32,631 --> 00:51:33,882
I went blank.
784
00:51:36,176 --> 00:51:37,260
{\an8}Are you recording?
785
00:51:37,261 --> 00:51:39,387
{\an8}DOON ARBUS VOICE
786
00:51:39,388 --> 00:51:41,305
{\an8}Let's listen to her. Let's see if...
787
00:51:41,306 --> 00:51:43,142
{\an8}Yesterday's or today's?
788
00:51:44,434 --> 00:51:48,480
In '69 or '70, Doon Arbus came out.
789
00:51:49,314 --> 00:51:53,402
His mother was Diane Arbus,
the famous photographer.
790
00:51:54,278 --> 00:51:56,070
{\an8}And he got along very well with Dick.
791
00:51:56,071 --> 00:51:57,113
{\an8}EXPERSONAL SECRETARY
792
00:51:57,114 --> 00:52:00,576
{\an8}They had a very special relationship.
793
00:52:01,326 --> 00:52:04,996
They were working on a book
and they connected in an incredible way.
794
00:52:04,997 --> 00:52:11,002
I'm going to record the conversation.
We can talk about whatever you want.
795
00:52:11,003 --> 00:52:15,339
Dick decided that he would take pictures
and she would do an interview.
796
00:52:15,340 --> 00:52:17,717
Below the portrait
there would be a simple sentence.
797
00:52:17,718 --> 00:52:20,136
A quote from… Well… Let's take it from…
798
00:52:20,137 --> 00:52:23,055
In order not to invent anything,
Let's use your words.
799
00:52:23,056 --> 00:52:27,435
The police will beat us to death.
They will murder black people.
800
00:52:27,436 --> 00:52:29,687
We must defend
constitutional rights.
801
00:52:29,688 --> 00:52:33,065
An eye for an eye. If you shoot me, I'll shoot you.
802
00:52:33,066 --> 00:52:36,652
Dick was not looking for the new,
803
00:52:36,653 --> 00:52:41,158
but what gave him energy back
to his life behind the camera.
804
00:52:42,451 --> 00:52:45,995
I worked with a Rolleiflex all my life.
805
00:52:45,996 --> 00:52:49,373
And I felt that human connection
had been lost.
806
00:52:49,374 --> 00:52:51,627
They couldn't see my eyes.
807
00:52:52,336 --> 00:52:53,961
That is, when you look...
808
00:52:53,962 --> 00:52:57,924
With a 35 mm or a Rolleiflex,
you are hidden
809
00:52:57,925 --> 00:53:00,844
I wanted a camera
that would allow me to be next to the lens,
810
00:53:01,720 --> 00:53:03,721
confront the model
811
00:53:03,722 --> 00:53:07,308
and influence how he behaved
in front of the camera.
812
00:53:07,309 --> 00:53:12,396
With the 8×10 camera,
I never had to look through it.
813
00:53:12,397 --> 00:53:15,316
I put together the composition with an assistant,
814
00:53:15,317 --> 00:53:18,903
I stood next to the lens
and talked to the model.
815
00:53:18,904 --> 00:53:21,323
It was a huge relief.
816
00:53:21,823 --> 00:53:25,243
In fact, I tried it on myself.
817
00:53:25,244 --> 00:53:30,249
And that was the beginning
of this extensive work.
818
00:53:30,749 --> 00:53:36,420
He made a lot of money
portraying beautiful and elegant models.
819
00:53:36,421 --> 00:53:41,467
{\an8}But I couldn't stay away
of the events of the time.
820
00:53:41,468 --> 00:53:44,178
{\an8}It was very important to him.
821
00:53:44,179 --> 00:53:46,430
LEAVE VIETNAM
PEACE IN VIETNAM
822
00:53:46,431 --> 00:53:48,641
Those were intense times.
823
00:53:48,642 --> 00:53:51,645
Everyone had something to say.
824
00:53:53,939 --> 00:53:57,859
There was a staging
of politics and rebellion.
825
00:53:58,527 --> 00:54:02,113
People put the body
to express your ideas.
826
00:54:02,114 --> 00:54:04,865
The world is watching us!
827
00:54:04,866 --> 00:54:07,910
Chicago police
and the National Guard clashed
828
00:54:07,911 --> 00:54:12,290
about 6000 people
who were demonstrating against the war.
829
00:54:12,291 --> 00:54:15,042
The accused,
called "the Chicago seven",
830
00:54:15,043 --> 00:54:17,796
face charges
of inciting riots.
831
00:54:20,257 --> 00:54:22,967
The trial was in Chicago.
832
00:54:22,968 --> 00:54:25,303
And I went to take photos of them.
833
00:54:25,304 --> 00:54:27,930
Abbie, Rennie in the middle
and Jerry at the end.
834
00:54:27,931 --> 00:54:29,557
- Good.
- A little more, Jerry.
835
00:54:29,558 --> 00:54:31,267
Move. That.
836
00:54:31,268 --> 00:54:34,687
That session was
in a small hotel room.
837
00:54:34,688 --> 00:54:36,439
People came and went.
838
00:54:36,440 --> 00:54:41,736
{\an8}Avedon constantly portrayed them,
and there was a cacophony of sounds.
839
00:54:41,737 --> 00:54:46,699
In the midst of all that,
Dick could be heard directing the models.
840
00:54:46,700 --> 00:54:49,160
Abbie approached Rennie. Very…
841
00:54:49,161 --> 00:54:51,037
Get serious. Look at the camera.
842
00:54:51,038 --> 00:54:53,165
In those photos, we look guilty.
843
00:54:53,665 --> 00:54:55,499
Abbie, relax.
844
00:54:55,500 --> 00:54:57,084
What?
845
00:54:57,085 --> 00:55:01,422
Those photos of the Chicago Seven
they made you pay attention
846
00:55:01,423 --> 00:55:05,260
{\an8}to something that maybe
you hadn't considered before.
847
00:55:05,844 --> 00:55:08,597
It didn't just show you a photo of someone.
848
00:55:09,181 --> 00:55:11,183
It challenged you on another level.
849
00:55:11,767 --> 00:55:15,478
Seeing those faces,
what is perceived is not the power.
850
00:55:15,479 --> 00:55:18,689
You see the fear. The stupidity.
851
00:55:18,690 --> 00:55:25,030
You see the people who caused
so much fuss in the 60s.
852
00:55:26,698 --> 00:55:31,620
You read about them, you see the headlines,
but he never sees them.
853
00:55:32,329 --> 00:55:35,539
And what he wants is for you to see
854
00:55:35,540 --> 00:55:42,047
not a headline, not a name in bold,
but directly to the people.
855
00:55:49,304 --> 00:55:53,099
In 1970, Dick made
his first retrospective
856
00:55:53,100 --> 00:55:55,893
at the Minneapolis Museum of Art.
857
00:55:55,894 --> 00:55:58,063
The entire team traveled.
858
00:56:00,524 --> 00:56:03,777
{\an8}The best thing was that they wanted
that there were people at the gala,
859
00:56:04,361 --> 00:56:06,487
so they got in a Jeep
860
00:56:06,488 --> 00:56:10,325
and they handed out invitations
to homeless people,
861
00:56:11,034 --> 00:56:12,536
to eccentric characters,
862
00:56:13,120 --> 00:56:14,036
to everyone.
863
00:56:14,037 --> 00:56:16,665
And it was full of people.
864
00:56:21,878 --> 00:56:24,463
The Avedon sample
It is not without controversy.
865
00:56:24,464 --> 00:56:26,632
For some,
The Chicago Room of the Seven
866
00:56:26,633 --> 00:56:29,176
a room lined with black
with portraits of the seven,
867
00:56:29,177 --> 00:56:30,971
it has a very political overtone.
868
00:56:33,098 --> 00:56:36,892
For others, the nude
by the poet Allen Ginsberg and his friend
869
00:56:36,893 --> 00:56:38,311
may be offensive.
870
00:56:39,729 --> 00:56:43,899
A reviewer came from New York.
It was from theNew York Times.
871
00:56:43,900 --> 00:56:46,611
And he wrote about a photo
of two gay men.
872
00:56:47,737 --> 00:56:50,990
They scandalized him.
Or it didn't seem like a real representation.
873
00:56:50,991 --> 00:56:53,993
I don't know.
There were 300 photos in the exhibition.
874
00:56:53,994 --> 00:56:56,495
It was a malicious criticism.
875
00:56:56,496 --> 00:57:00,749
Very superficial and unkind.
876
00:57:00,750 --> 00:57:03,377
I knew what they must be feeling.
877
00:57:03,378 --> 00:57:04,295
Yes.
878
00:57:04,296 --> 00:57:05,838
Obviously, I got angry.
879
00:57:05,839 --> 00:57:06,755
Yes.
880
00:57:06,756 --> 00:57:10,259
It's like a fly.
881
00:57:10,260 --> 00:57:12,344
It's something insignificant.
882
00:57:12,345 --> 00:57:14,096
It hurt Dick a lot.
883
00:57:14,097 --> 00:57:18,852
He acted like he didn't care,
but I know it wasn't like that.
884
00:57:19,478 --> 00:57:20,978
It bothered him.
885
00:57:20,979 --> 00:57:24,899
And it only strengthened my position
about what I have to do.
886
00:57:24,900 --> 00:57:26,066
Great.
887
00:57:26,067 --> 00:57:29,987
Word spreads that it didn't bother me
in the slightest.
888
00:57:29,988 --> 00:57:31,363
- Good.
- Thank you.
889
00:57:31,364 --> 00:57:33,158
Good. Goodbye.
890
00:57:34,910 --> 00:57:39,121
I think I always anticipated
that there would be fierce and negative reviews.
891
00:57:39,122 --> 00:57:40,873
If he really cared?
892
00:57:40,874 --> 00:57:42,709
I think that always matters.
893
00:57:43,627 --> 00:57:45,629
But he did not give in.
894
00:58:05,899 --> 00:58:11,279
I wanted to portray the war as it was.
895
00:58:13,365 --> 00:58:15,867
And make an anti-war statement.
896
00:58:16,868 --> 00:58:20,329
{\an8}But I was very aware
of the incongruity
897
00:58:20,330 --> 00:58:23,916
{\an8}and even the humorous potential
from a Vogue photographer
898
00:58:23,917 --> 00:58:25,794
{\an8}in the middle of a war zone.
899
00:58:33,134 --> 00:58:37,638
{\an8}He talked a lot about going to Vietnam
and portray the generals.
900
00:58:37,639 --> 00:58:40,475
It was a great effort for him.
It wasn't easy.
901
00:58:41,935 --> 00:58:43,645
The Mission Council
902
00:58:44,312 --> 00:58:48,400
he met at the embassy
in Saigon every Thursday.
903
00:58:49,693 --> 00:58:56,533
I became friends with the press chief
and we arranged for them to pose for me.
904
00:58:57,742 --> 00:58:59,159
Seven weeks passed.
905
00:58:59,160 --> 00:59:02,496
Every Thursday, the helicopter
landed on the roof.
906
00:59:02,497 --> 00:59:06,459
And the boss told me:
"Not today. They're busy."
907
00:59:07,711 --> 00:59:11,298
Finally, the seventh week,
the helicopter landed
908
00:59:11,881 --> 00:59:15,593
and General Abrams
He walked down the long hallway.
909
00:59:15,594 --> 00:59:18,345
And the photographer became an athlete.
910
00:59:18,346 --> 00:59:22,600
I lunged forward and pushed him into the living room.
911
00:59:22,601 --> 00:59:26,103
I couldn't believe what I was doing.
They could have shot me.
912
00:59:26,104 --> 00:59:30,232
Then came Ambassador Bunker
and the assistants.
913
00:59:30,233 --> 00:59:32,318
They came right away.
914
00:59:32,319 --> 00:59:35,195
And they lined up
like high school kids.
915
00:59:35,196 --> 00:59:37,490
Everyone wanted to be in the photo.
916
00:59:38,617 --> 00:59:41,201
It was his way of condemning the war
917
00:59:41,202 --> 00:59:46,458
and to show the faceless bureaucracy
who committed the most horrendous crimes.
918
01:00:08,605 --> 01:00:10,023
Okay, I'll let it go.
919
01:00:10,690 --> 01:00:11,650
Come on.
920
01:00:12,651 --> 01:00:17,613
When he started doing
those panoramic photos
921
01:00:17,614 --> 01:00:21,618
in which he joined two or three paintings,
922
01:00:22,243 --> 01:00:27,290
{\an8}stood out in a very special way.
923
01:00:27,874 --> 01:00:29,166
- Perfect.
-And…
924
01:00:29,167 --> 01:00:33,629
And it incorporated the culture of the time.
925
01:00:33,630 --> 01:00:39,843
The politicians, the hippies,
the yippies, the yuppies, whatever.
926
01:00:39,844 --> 01:00:42,222
He got right into it.
927
01:00:46,893 --> 01:00:48,102
NEW YORK CITY
928
01:00:48,103 --> 01:00:51,022
I went to the Marlborough Gallery
on 57th Street.
929
01:00:52,732 --> 01:00:55,234
{\an8}I didn't know Dick Avedon.
930
01:00:55,235 --> 01:00:59,196
{\an8}I didn't buy Harper's Bazaar.
I read Ms. magazine
931
01:00:59,197 --> 01:01:01,615
I entered the exhibition
932
01:01:01,616 --> 01:01:07,914
and I saw gigantic, enormous photos,
stuck to the wall.
933
01:01:08,498 --> 01:01:10,040
It blew my mind.
934
01:01:10,041 --> 01:01:12,836
I thought, "Who is this guy?"
935
01:01:14,295 --> 01:01:16,588
{\an8}They were on a cinematic scale.
936
01:01:16,589 --> 01:01:19,174
{\an8}They were almost ten meters wide.
937
01:01:19,175 --> 01:01:22,803
Print photos of that size
938
01:01:22,804 --> 01:01:27,434
showed incredible confidence
in his own vision.
939
01:01:28,059 --> 01:01:32,439
As Terry Southern said:
"Raise the flag and see who salutes it."
940
01:01:33,815 --> 01:01:34,815
And it works.
941
01:01:34,816 --> 01:01:39,236
You see one of those photos
and it's like you're with them.
942
01:01:39,237 --> 01:01:41,071
You enter their space.
943
01:01:41,072 --> 01:01:44,784
The scale was not only monumental,
but very effective.
944
01:01:45,785 --> 01:01:48,746
I realized that the photos
revealed secrets
945
01:01:48,747 --> 01:01:50,498
when you enlarged them.
946
01:01:53,501 --> 01:01:55,879
On one side were the generals
947
01:01:56,796 --> 01:01:59,299
and, on the other side, Warhol's Factory.
948
01:02:00,008 --> 01:02:02,718
We see Andy Warhol
with the members of his Factory,
949
01:02:02,719 --> 01:02:05,221
the weirdos of the 60s.
950
01:02:05,764 --> 01:02:10,226
Printed larger than actual size,
on a panel ten meters long.
951
01:02:11,352 --> 01:02:14,814
{\an8}What I remember most about that
952
01:02:16,608 --> 01:02:20,695
they were all naked
and they wandered around the studio.
953
01:02:23,114 --> 01:02:27,576
I remember Brigid Polk,
which was part of the Factory,
954
01:02:27,577 --> 01:02:30,120
and he didn't care about anything at all.
955
01:02:30,121 --> 01:02:31,414
And simply…
956
01:02:32,540 --> 01:02:33,958
They all did the same.
957
01:02:42,759 --> 01:02:47,472
I was 22 years old
and I hung out with Andy Warhol.
958
01:02:48,223 --> 01:02:52,727
I remember there was a lot of nudity.
959
01:02:53,603 --> 01:02:58,023
And, curiously,
It didn't seem strange to me either.
960
01:02:58,024 --> 01:02:59,776
Things of the time, I guess.
961
01:03:07,408 --> 01:03:09,285
He is one of the few artists
962
01:03:09,869 --> 01:03:13,956
whose inaugurations
They became events.
963
01:03:13,957 --> 01:03:15,999
- He's the photographer.
- Yes.
964
01:03:16,000 --> 01:03:17,919
He has glasses and is not very tall.
965
01:03:18,711 --> 01:03:19,838
We saw it.
966
01:03:20,547 --> 01:03:25,509
Avedon would make an exhibition
at the new ArtCenter in Los Angeles.
967
01:03:25,510 --> 01:03:29,179
I had a poster store.
I had just started as an art dealer.
968
01:03:29,180 --> 01:03:32,432
and I asked
If I could do something like that in my store,
969
01:03:32,433 --> 01:03:34,434
but much smaller.
970
01:03:34,435 --> 01:03:39,356
{\an8}I was happy to be able to do
a small exhibition of his work.
971
01:03:39,357 --> 01:03:42,110
It was my first contact
with Avedon as artist.
972
01:03:42,694 --> 01:03:44,236
Don't buy anything yet.
973
01:03:44,237 --> 01:03:46,905
- I'll do it if I want.
- Give it time.
974
01:03:46,906 --> 01:03:49,868
I think he was clever. He knew what he was doing.
975
01:03:50,451 --> 01:03:54,913
Gave very precise instructions
about how he wanted to market his work.
976
01:03:54,914 --> 01:03:57,541
It's interesting from that point of view.
977
01:03:57,542 --> 01:03:59,794
- Yes.
- It is the meaning of the event.
978
01:04:00,378 --> 01:04:02,254
He walked from here to there, very friendly.
979
01:04:02,255 --> 01:04:04,590
This is Don Kubly. And she, Jean Bannon…
980
01:04:04,591 --> 01:04:06,216
- How are you?
- How are you?
981
01:04:06,217 --> 01:04:08,051
I'm glad to see you.
982
01:04:08,052 --> 01:04:09,595
{\an8}There is a phrase that I love.
983
01:04:09,596 --> 01:04:13,099
{\an8}"In the aristocracy of success,
There are no strangers."
984
01:04:13,766 --> 01:04:16,351
And he knew everyone.
985
01:04:16,352 --> 01:04:18,520
- A lot to talk.
- We have to catch up.
986
01:04:18,521 --> 01:04:20,147
Give me a minute.
987
01:04:20,148 --> 01:04:22,107
- Don't go, okay?
- No.
988
01:04:22,108 --> 01:04:27,738
But I knew them the American way,
That is, they were not very close.
989
01:04:27,739 --> 01:04:30,908
It's just a show of power.
990
01:04:30,909 --> 01:04:32,784
Leave. I'm tired.
991
01:04:32,785 --> 01:04:34,953
- Much success.
- Thank you so much.
992
01:04:34,954 --> 01:04:40,667
He was very powerful and had access
at a certain level of exposure.
993
01:04:40,668 --> 01:04:41,753
Good night.
994
01:04:43,838 --> 01:04:48,926
{\an8}Sometimes, I wanted to make someone nervous
because I had a certain idea of him,
995
01:04:48,927 --> 01:04:51,178
like when he photographed Kissinger.
996
01:04:51,179 --> 01:04:55,350
He arrived, and I only had a minute to myself.
He told me: "Be nice to me."
997
01:04:56,643 --> 01:05:00,729
I knew what he meant by "kind."
And he knew what I meant.
998
01:05:00,730 --> 01:05:04,775
The person in front of the camera
You don't have control.
999
01:05:04,776 --> 01:05:06,527
Richard Avedon has it.
1000
01:05:09,572 --> 01:05:11,031
Control the editing.
1001
01:05:11,032 --> 01:05:15,786
Control what the final image will be like.
1002
01:05:15,787 --> 01:05:20,457
You know that when someone accepts
to photograph it, you give up control.
1003
01:05:20,458 --> 01:05:23,544
And my dad was very controlling.
1004
01:05:26,381 --> 01:05:32,345
He didn't mind fooling people a little.
to take her where he wanted.
1005
01:05:34,305 --> 01:05:36,807
He did it with Mrs. Reagan
a few years later.
1006
01:05:36,808 --> 01:05:40,769
His representative told him on the phone
everything Nancy wouldn't do.
1007
01:05:40,770 --> 01:05:44,648
I had to photograph it in a certain way.
And I wouldn't do this or that.
1008
01:05:44,649 --> 01:05:47,275
And Dick agreed with everything.
1009
01:05:47,276 --> 01:05:51,989
But no one told him
that all of that included the hands.
1010
01:05:51,990 --> 01:05:54,408
The hands seen in that photo
1011
01:05:54,409 --> 01:05:57,953
They are those of a woman
with impeccable face.
1012
01:05:57,954 --> 01:06:00,831
Retouched, made up, etc.
1013
01:06:00,832 --> 01:06:05,419
And then you see those claws,
completely natural.
1014
01:06:05,420 --> 01:06:08,380
And she went crazy.
1015
01:06:08,381 --> 01:06:12,009
But that was Dick, doing his thing.
1016
01:06:12,010 --> 01:06:17,056
{\an8}It reminds me of the famous photo
of the Duke and Duchess of Windsor.
1017
01:06:18,224 --> 01:06:22,102
The Duke and Duchess of Windsor
They were world-class heroes.
1018
01:06:22,103 --> 01:06:24,229
but they were anti-Semitic.
1019
01:06:24,230 --> 01:06:26,606
I photographed them in their hotel room.
1020
01:06:26,607 --> 01:06:29,443
Photo after photo, they were just smiling.
1021
01:06:29,444 --> 01:06:35,657
I couldn't cross the wall
of its public façade.
1022
01:06:35,658 --> 01:06:38,578
I was desperate.
I didn't have the photo I wanted.
1023
01:06:40,163 --> 01:06:42,457
But they loved dogs.
1024
01:06:43,624 --> 01:06:49,088
I said I was late
because my taxi hit a dog.
1025
01:06:49,839 --> 01:06:52,341
Their faces changed and I took the photo.
1026
01:06:52,925 --> 01:06:57,847
She said she would kill me,
so I think he didn't like it.
1027
01:06:58,347 --> 01:07:01,391
I think it's a very compassionate photo,
1028
01:07:01,392 --> 01:07:05,396
considering that they were
some anti-Semitic fascists.
1029
01:07:07,023 --> 01:07:09,817
There was always a duel between Dick
1030
01:07:10,610 --> 01:07:12,110
and the model.
1031
01:07:12,111 --> 01:07:14,113
And Dick won.
1032
01:07:25,333 --> 01:07:30,879
Behind the public figure and his work,
There is someone that few could know.
1033
01:07:30,880 --> 01:07:34,299
An introspective man,
complex and intense
1034
01:07:34,300 --> 01:07:37,595
that only occasionally
reveals your intimate side.
1035
01:07:38,096 --> 01:07:41,974
Testing. Very good.
1036
01:07:45,728 --> 01:07:49,232
Tell me something that I never
you haven't told anyone.
1037
01:07:49,816 --> 01:07:52,859
It's hard for me.
It's the first time I've blocked myself.
1038
01:07:52,860 --> 01:07:54,820
Yes, I know.
1039
01:07:54,821 --> 01:07:56,780
It's a place I prefer not to go.
1040
01:07:56,781 --> 01:08:00,660
I saw what public life
He made friends of mine.
1041
01:08:02,203 --> 01:08:04,288
How dangerous it can be.
1042
01:08:05,957 --> 01:08:08,291
Working at that pace,
1043
01:08:08,292 --> 01:08:15,132
I neglected the most important thing:
my family life and my marriage.
1044
01:08:15,133 --> 01:08:17,592
I think I was too much...
1045
01:08:17,593 --> 01:08:19,679
I don't think one can do it all.
1046
01:08:21,514 --> 01:08:25,016
My mother was devastated
due to deep depression
1047
01:08:25,017 --> 01:08:27,562
which led to mental illness.
1048
01:08:28,271 --> 01:08:31,482
There was a nurse's bed in the room.
1049
01:08:32,358 --> 01:08:34,861
He had become paralyzed. He didn't speak.
1050
01:08:35,444 --> 01:08:37,571
A total collapse.
1051
01:08:37,572 --> 01:08:40,407
It was like a ghost
1052
01:08:40,408 --> 01:08:43,578
and I couldn't continue
Dad's frenetic pace.
1053
01:08:44,453 --> 01:08:47,582
And dad blamed him.
1054
01:08:52,420 --> 01:08:55,673
He moved to a studio, something ideal for him.
1055
01:08:57,550 --> 01:08:59,552
In the end, everything fades away.
1056
01:09:00,386 --> 01:09:02,805
Children grow up and live their lives.
1057
01:09:03,514 --> 01:09:07,017
Marriages, love, sex.
1058
01:09:07,018 --> 01:09:09,019
Everything fades away.
1059
01:09:09,020 --> 01:09:10,729
Not work.
1060
01:09:10,730 --> 01:09:13,481
It doesn't necessarily make you feel good,
1061
01:09:13,482 --> 01:09:16,694
but it is the only thing that never betrays you.
1062
01:09:20,448 --> 01:09:23,951
He never divorced my mother,
even after many years.
1063
01:09:25,286 --> 01:09:26,704
He never stopped loving her.
1064
01:09:27,580 --> 01:09:30,791
But I felt like I was married.
with his sister.
1065
01:09:32,460 --> 01:09:36,172
I moved to my studio
and I live on the top floor,
1066
01:09:37,798 --> 01:09:41,969
in the smallest room possible.
1067
01:09:44,096 --> 01:09:49,185
Now, I work seven days a week.
1068
01:09:49,685 --> 01:09:52,480
I don't have weekends or nights.
1069
01:09:53,397 --> 01:09:58,860
It's strange, because I see that my friends,
most of the time,
1070
01:09:58,861 --> 01:10:02,447
they wait for the moment
to see his children and his grandchildren,
1071
01:10:02,448 --> 01:10:06,618
but I feel
Like a runner at the end of a race,
1072
01:10:06,619 --> 01:10:09,914
when he finally launches himself towards the goal.
1073
01:10:10,998 --> 01:10:13,375
He was emotionally relentless.
1074
01:10:13,376 --> 01:10:16,461
Nobody could keep him away
of what I wanted to do.
1075
01:10:16,462 --> 01:10:18,880
He only cared about working.
1076
01:10:18,881 --> 01:10:21,716
Many things went well
because they were a challenge,
1077
01:10:21,717 --> 01:10:25,930
because he couldn't stop thinking:
"What am I going to do? How am I going to do it?"
1078
01:10:27,306 --> 01:10:32,269
Being an artist is having control.
You want to create your own world.
1079
01:10:32,270 --> 01:10:35,230
And control the world
in which it is located.
1080
01:10:35,231 --> 01:10:41,403
If I lost control,
I would feel my axis collapsing.
1081
01:10:41,404 --> 01:10:42,989
There would be nothing left of me.
1082
01:10:44,657 --> 01:10:49,828
If he felt like you weren't taking him seriously,
Not only did he get frustrated, he got angry.
1083
01:10:49,829 --> 01:10:53,623
You always had to be attentive
because you wanted to please him.
1084
01:10:53,624 --> 01:10:58,337
You wanted to please him.
and live up to your expectations.
1085
01:10:58,921 --> 01:11:03,049
My years with Dick
They were my formative stage
1086
01:11:03,050 --> 01:11:07,138
as a young photography assistant.
1087
01:11:07,638 --> 01:11:11,891
{\an8}And the day always comes
when you leave the studio,
1088
01:11:11,892 --> 01:11:13,352
{\an8}but you don't know what it will be like.
1089
01:11:13,936 --> 01:11:15,646
I didn't want to disappoint him.
1090
01:11:16,147 --> 01:11:18,898
On my last day, he came up to me and said:
1091
01:11:18,899 --> 01:11:22,987
"I found out that you are going to work
for Steven Meisel.
1092
01:11:23,487 --> 01:11:25,530
Tell me it's not true. Is that so?"
1093
01:11:25,531 --> 01:11:31,161
Steven was a photographer
who had been greatly inspired by Avedon
1094
01:11:31,162 --> 01:11:35,207
{\an8}and their work was very similar,
but then he created his own style.
1095
01:11:36,375 --> 01:11:39,377
Dick was so upset
who started shouting:
1096
01:11:39,378 --> 01:11:42,798
"How could you do this to me?"
"After so many years?"
1097
01:11:43,299 --> 01:11:46,259
Gathered everyone,
1098
01:11:46,260 --> 01:11:51,181
to the assistants, to the intern,
to your maid, to your agent,
1099
01:11:51,182 --> 01:11:55,143
and told them: "Sebastian is going to work
with Steven Meisel.
1100
01:11:55,144 --> 01:11:58,188
"You don't know how upset I am."
1101
01:11:58,189 --> 01:11:59,023
And he told me:
1102
01:12:00,191 --> 01:12:02,151
"Take your things. You need to go."
1103
01:12:03,903 --> 01:12:07,405
I was devastated.
1104
01:12:07,406 --> 01:12:10,492
I felt like I had let him down.
and I started to cry.
1105
01:12:10,493 --> 01:12:16,457
I felt like I had betrayed
to the person who had given me so much.
1106
01:12:20,586 --> 01:12:24,590
Six months later,
I received a letter in the mail.
1107
01:12:27,885 --> 01:12:31,179
And it said: "Dear Sebastian.
1108
01:12:31,180 --> 01:12:34,057
In every relationship
There are good and bad times.
1109
01:12:34,058 --> 01:12:36,684
And, in ours,
The good ones outnumbered the bad ones.
1110
01:12:36,685 --> 01:12:37,685
We miss you.
1111
01:12:37,686 --> 01:12:42,232
When you are in New York, we want to give you
the farewell party you didn't have.
1112
01:12:42,233 --> 01:12:44,235
My best wishes and memories. Dick."
1113
01:12:44,819 --> 01:12:47,987
I think it was his way of saying sorry.
1114
01:12:47,988 --> 01:12:51,449
And I was able to close that stage.
1115
01:12:51,450 --> 01:12:52,952
AND…
1116
01:12:54,745 --> 01:12:55,704
Yeah.
1117
01:13:08,134 --> 01:13:11,845
{\an8}When you work with all kinds of people,
1118
01:13:11,846 --> 01:13:16,642
{\an8}who carry their ego first
like a spear,
1119
01:13:17,601 --> 01:13:22,021
strategy is needed
and a certain temperament.
1120
01:13:22,022 --> 01:13:25,526
You have to be strong
to endure so much ego.
1121
01:13:26,152 --> 01:13:29,488
But with your father it's something very different.
1122
01:13:31,198 --> 01:13:34,617
I realized that there was
a 76-year-old man in Florida
1123
01:13:34,618 --> 01:13:35,744
that I didn't know.
1124
01:13:37,204 --> 01:13:41,040
And I felt I had to do it,
for the sake of my son and mine.
1125
01:13:41,041 --> 01:13:42,877
I had to know what my father was like.
1126
01:13:43,544 --> 01:13:46,505
We didn't have a close relationship.
of father and son.
1127
01:13:47,006 --> 01:13:49,341
In fact, in my youth
We had no relationship.
1128
01:13:49,842 --> 01:13:54,513
must have thought
that I could do nothing but prepare
1129
01:13:55,181 --> 01:13:57,892
for a world that saw as a battle.
1130
01:13:58,392 --> 01:14:00,811
It's too much for a three year old.
1131
01:14:04,398 --> 01:14:06,816
His father lived in Sarasota, Florida.
1132
01:14:06,817 --> 01:14:12,031
I went to visit him a lot.
I imagine she wanted to get closer to him.
1133
01:14:13,073 --> 01:14:14,240
- Hello, Eleanor.
- Yes.
1134
01:14:14,241 --> 01:14:16,659
- Dick speaks. Is dad there?
- You were...
1135
01:14:16,660 --> 01:14:18,578
How are you, darling? All good.
1136
01:14:18,579 --> 01:14:21,999
My father had a device
to record calls.
1137
01:14:22,583 --> 01:14:23,917
- Hello.
- Hello, dad.
1138
01:14:23,918 --> 01:14:25,084
- Dick.
- How are you?
1139
01:14:25,085 --> 01:14:26,419
- How are you?
- Good.
1140
01:14:26,420 --> 01:14:29,506
He had many talks with grandfather.
1141
01:14:29,507 --> 01:14:30,965
I have some answers for you.
1142
01:14:30,966 --> 01:14:32,592
I also have something for you.
1143
01:14:32,593 --> 01:14:34,677
Good. Who goes first?
1144
01:14:34,678 --> 01:14:37,388
In an effort to get closer,
somehow,
1145
01:14:37,389 --> 01:14:39,557
as peers and as men,
1146
01:14:39,558 --> 01:14:41,601
I went with the 8 × 10 camera,
1147
01:14:41,602 --> 01:14:44,730
an assistant
and a writer with a tape recorder.
1148
01:14:45,648 --> 01:14:47,732
The most beautiful light is that of day.
1149
01:14:47,733 --> 01:14:50,026
- Get here.
- This is my son.
1150
01:14:50,027 --> 01:14:52,695
Hello. How are you? And this is my son.
1151
01:14:52,696 --> 01:14:53,821
His name is John.
1152
01:14:53,822 --> 01:14:56,157
- This is John Avedon…
-John.
1153
01:14:56,158 --> 01:14:58,493
…and this is Richard Avedon.
1154
01:14:58,494 --> 01:15:00,454
I continued portraying him.
1155
01:15:00,955 --> 01:15:04,082
And, finally, we speak each other's language.
1156
01:15:04,083 --> 01:15:09,087
He learned the trade,
to look at the lens and, at the same time, talk to me
1157
01:15:09,088 --> 01:15:12,382
of the most intimate things
and important to him.
1158
01:15:12,383 --> 01:15:14,885
That feeling of being a failure...
1159
01:15:15,386 --> 01:15:16,803
I had it too.
1160
01:15:16,804 --> 01:15:17,846
It was very difficult.
1161
01:15:18,722 --> 01:15:21,392
- That I was? Or you?
- Me.
1162
01:15:23,811 --> 01:15:30,817
{\an8}In the way he presents these photos
I don't perceive a sense of forgiveness,
1163
01:15:30,818 --> 01:15:35,781
but of understanding and recognition.
1164
01:15:37,074 --> 01:15:41,870
There's a lot of Dick
in these portraits of his father.
1165
01:15:42,746 --> 01:15:46,416
Portray my father
It wasn't just photographing it,
1166
01:15:46,417 --> 01:15:52,673
but to portray who we really were,
stripped of all artifice.
1167
01:15:53,257 --> 01:15:58,303
When I was a child, I remember one day
my mother had a new hat.
1168
01:15:58,304 --> 01:16:02,725
And we decided to take a photo
because we looked very cute.
1169
01:16:03,392 --> 01:16:06,395
And we felt that it was missing
a dog in the photo.
1170
01:16:07,479 --> 01:16:10,064
We tried three different dogs.
1171
01:16:10,065 --> 01:16:13,360
Finally, we found a fox terrier.
1172
01:16:14,486 --> 01:16:17,865
The family album
It was full of borrowed dogs.
1173
01:16:18,741 --> 01:16:21,619
We were always with a dog,
but we never had one.
1174
01:16:24,288 --> 01:16:30,084
His first contact with photography
It was with real people,
1175
01:16:30,085 --> 01:16:31,502
your family,
1176
01:16:31,503 --> 01:16:33,297
living a fiction.
1177
01:16:34,048 --> 01:16:36,341
The photo was not real.
1178
01:16:36,342 --> 01:16:40,428
I think that aspect of deception
1179
01:16:40,429 --> 01:16:44,224
it was a tension
with whom he lived as an artist.
1180
01:16:47,519 --> 01:16:50,731
The sadness of borrowed dogs…
1181
01:16:51,231 --> 01:16:54,942
We are not satisfied with who we are.
1182
01:16:54,943 --> 01:16:59,239
And that seems devastating to me.
1183
01:17:02,451 --> 01:17:04,744
In August, I was working
1184
01:17:04,745 --> 01:17:09,791
and I returned to Florida to be with him.
1185
01:17:09,792 --> 01:17:12,211
We had a fantastic weekend.
1186
01:17:12,795 --> 01:17:15,463
We went for a walk. We went to the sea.
1187
01:17:15,464 --> 01:17:17,465
We did many things together.
1188
01:17:17,466 --> 01:17:20,260
And by then,
We were already really friends.
1189
01:17:20,761 --> 01:17:25,349
When I left,
He stopped eating and died in four days.
1190
01:17:27,935 --> 01:17:30,395
I think they reconciled. Definitely.
1191
01:17:30,396 --> 01:17:32,647
And I think grandpa
1192
01:17:32,648 --> 01:17:36,442
he let daddy photograph him
so emaciated at the end of his days
1193
01:17:36,443 --> 01:17:38,277
perhaps as an act of love.
1194
01:17:38,278 --> 01:17:40,989
It was her way of sharing something with him.
1195
01:17:41,490 --> 01:17:45,451
There is a certain detachment
in his photographic style.
1196
01:17:45,452 --> 01:17:49,163
But within the limits
of that control,
1197
01:17:49,164 --> 01:17:52,709
he allows the energy
1198
01:17:52,710 --> 01:17:56,880
Turn the session into an event.
1199
01:17:57,381 --> 01:18:01,760
Took that emotional language
and turned it into a photographic language.
1200
01:18:02,344 --> 01:18:08,599
I'm glad I got to know you
like never before.
1201
01:18:08,600 --> 01:18:10,643
It makes me very happy too.
1202
01:18:10,644 --> 01:18:14,648
It's one of the best things in my life.
1203
01:18:22,197 --> 01:18:26,451
NEW YORK CITY
1204
01:18:26,452 --> 01:18:27,953
The big milestone was the Met.
1205
01:18:29,037 --> 01:18:32,081
Have the sign on the façade of the museum,
1206
01:18:32,082 --> 01:18:35,210
For a boy from New York,
1207
01:18:35,919 --> 01:18:37,504
It is a huge achievement.
1208
01:18:38,505 --> 01:18:41,841
It was a great event at the Met.
You took it very seriously.
1209
01:18:41,842 --> 01:18:43,969
And it caused a bit of a stir, didn't it?
1210
01:18:44,470 --> 01:18:48,306
I thought the Met was for dead people,
but it seems not.
1211
01:18:48,307 --> 01:18:51,058
I enjoyed it. It was very exciting.
1212
01:18:51,059 --> 01:18:54,146
The concept of the museum had changed.
1213
01:18:55,397 --> 01:18:56,689
The Met and the MoMA,
1214
01:18:56,690 --> 01:18:59,442
the big institutions
to which we go
1215
01:18:59,443 --> 01:19:01,402
{\an8}to know what is relevant,
1216
01:19:01,403 --> 01:19:03,321
{\an8}they began to pay attention to him.
1217
01:19:03,322 --> 01:19:07,200
{\an8}That moment inspired many photographers.
1218
01:19:07,201 --> 01:19:12,497
They witnessed how someone seen
like a simple fashion photographer,
1219
01:19:12,498 --> 01:19:15,583
{\an8}that I could not expose
in galleries or museums,
1220
01:19:15,584 --> 01:19:17,710
{\an8}he finally got that recognition.
1221
01:19:17,711 --> 01:19:20,838
He was now considered a serious artist
1222
01:19:20,839 --> 01:19:25,344
instead of the man who took photos
of pretty girls in fashion magazines.
1223
01:19:25,928 --> 01:19:27,179
Mr. Avedon, my pleasure.
1224
01:19:28,138 --> 01:19:32,141
It's an incredible moment
and completely liberating.
1225
01:19:32,142 --> 01:19:35,561
I am not one of those who live in the past.
1226
01:19:35,562 --> 01:19:37,355
I hardly live in the present.
1227
01:19:37,356 --> 01:19:39,775
And I can't wait to get back to work.
1228
01:19:41,235 --> 01:19:45,446
Dick always pointed to the future,
to what was coming.
1229
01:19:45,447 --> 01:19:48,366
{\an8}And he had a unique intelligence...
1230
01:19:48,367 --> 01:19:49,283
{\an8}FASHION DESIGNER
1231
01:19:49,284 --> 01:19:51,411
{\an8}…to do unprecedented things.
1232
01:19:55,040 --> 01:19:57,208
Egoïste was the first publication
1233
01:19:57,209 --> 01:20:01,755
which allowed him to show his work
as he wanted.
1234
01:20:02,548 --> 01:20:05,175
Hello!
1235
01:20:05,968 --> 01:20:07,760
- What a thrill.
- Very excited.
1236
01:20:07,761 --> 01:20:11,473
It is the power of women
with which we are working.
1237
01:20:12,474 --> 01:20:15,226
Nicole Wisniak
the founder of the magazine,
1238
01:20:15,227 --> 01:20:17,478
I was as demanding as he was.
1239
01:20:17,479 --> 01:20:22,860
The print was beautiful
and the quality was top notch.
1240
01:20:23,944 --> 01:20:26,737
Egoïstegave me
a total freedom of expression.
1241
01:20:26,738 --> 01:20:30,616
They gave me unlimited pages
and total freedom for whatever you wanted.
1242
01:20:30,617 --> 01:20:31,952
Isn't it amazing?
1243
01:20:33,537 --> 01:20:37,623
Dad was a pioneer
of those long narratives,
1244
01:20:37,624 --> 01:20:40,752
that are very close to theater and cinema.
1245
01:20:42,546 --> 01:20:46,716
I always had in mind
that I would work with Dick.
1246
01:20:46,717 --> 01:20:48,885
I just had to convince him.
1247
01:20:48,886 --> 01:20:52,972
And it wasn't very difficult
because he loves to work.
1248
01:20:52,973 --> 01:20:54,098
{\an8}CHERRIES IN THE SNOW
1249
01:20:54,099 --> 01:20:56,851
I lived off advertising all my life...
1250
01:20:56,852 --> 01:20:57,978
{\an8}QUEEN OF DIAMONDS
1251
01:21:01,523 --> 01:21:04,150
…so I understand the market very well.
1252
01:21:04,151 --> 01:21:05,736
{\an8}UNFORGETTABLES USE REVLON
1253
01:21:07,779 --> 01:21:09,447
{\an8}BE SHY, BE BOLD, BE YOURSELF
1254
01:21:09,448 --> 01:21:11,658
{\an8}He always liked to tell stories.
1255
01:21:14,369 --> 01:21:19,457
Converted TV ads
in mini-films with multiple layers.
1256
01:21:19,458 --> 01:21:21,292
Welcome home, Lauren.
1257
01:21:21,293 --> 01:21:22,251
Hello darling!
1258
01:21:22,252 --> 01:21:25,129
{\an8}She was there, in her bra and underwear...
1259
01:21:25,130 --> 01:21:26,547
Hello, how are you?
1260
01:21:26,548 --> 01:21:30,802
…and he went looking
to Andy Warhol's entourage.
1261
01:21:31,303 --> 01:21:36,183
All those people invaded the dressing room.
1262
01:21:38,226 --> 01:21:39,518
- The hair.
- More red!
1263
01:21:39,519 --> 01:21:41,354
And I was going crazy.
1264
01:21:41,355 --> 01:21:43,147
Come on, Lauren!
1265
01:21:43,148 --> 01:21:44,440
I'm fed up!
1266
01:21:44,441 --> 01:21:47,151
And suddenly he screamed...
1267
01:21:47,152 --> 01:21:49,112
Lauren, that's fantastic!
1268
01:21:51,490 --> 01:21:52,657
Beautiful!
1269
01:21:52,658 --> 01:21:55,243
In advertising,
many times there is no product.
1270
01:21:55,786 --> 01:21:58,287
I'm surprised that someone loves me.
1271
01:21:58,288 --> 01:22:01,791
A perfume is like any other.
Everything happens through the image.
1272
01:22:01,792 --> 01:22:04,126
You have to create something desirable.
1273
01:22:04,127 --> 01:22:05,336
He knows what you want.
1274
01:22:05,337 --> 01:22:07,338
The good thing about that
1275
01:22:07,339 --> 01:22:12,843
it is that I am forced to invent
something that captures the imagination.
1276
01:22:12,844 --> 01:22:14,929
Brings out my joking side.
1277
01:22:14,930 --> 01:22:18,849
Separate "great art" from "pure commerce"
It's a false dichotomy.
1278
01:22:18,850 --> 01:22:22,854
For an artist,
everything is a creative challenge.
1279
01:22:23,647 --> 01:22:26,107
He lived from his commercial work,
1280
01:22:26,108 --> 01:22:30,362
but I also used it
to express yourself creatively.
1281
01:22:31,238 --> 01:22:34,156
When I do television commercials,
1282
01:22:34,157 --> 01:22:37,159
I always work as a team with Doon Arbus.
1283
01:22:37,160 --> 01:22:39,870
We write and direct together.
1284
01:22:39,871 --> 01:22:41,580
It was Doon who wrote
1285
01:22:41,581 --> 01:22:43,874
"Do you want to know what is
between me and my Calvins?"
1286
01:22:43,875 --> 01:22:46,794
Do you want to know what's there
between me and my Calvins?
1287
01:22:46,795 --> 01:22:47,878
Nothing.
1288
01:22:47,879 --> 01:22:51,842
{\an8}Every night, we got drunk
in his studio
1289
01:22:52,676 --> 01:22:55,261
and we created.
1290
01:22:55,262 --> 01:22:59,390
Reading is for the mind
what Calvins are to the body.
1291
01:22:59,391 --> 01:23:01,976
Calling them "Calvins" was his idea.
1292
01:23:01,977 --> 01:23:03,769
I wear Calvins.
1293
01:23:03,770 --> 01:23:06,856
I said, "I don't know if that sounds good."
1294
01:23:06,857 --> 01:23:08,482
Calvins.
1295
01:23:08,483 --> 01:23:11,402
"No, no, no." He was insistent.
1296
01:23:11,403 --> 01:23:13,320
{\an8}I became a Calvin girl.
1297
01:23:13,321 --> 01:23:16,533
{\an8}I did advertising campaigns
pretty crazy
1298
01:23:17,242 --> 01:23:22,038
It terrifies me to think what has become of her,
that fascinating and exquisite creature.
1299
01:23:22,039 --> 01:23:23,873
Like those of Obsession,
1300
01:23:23,874 --> 01:23:27,418
which were surreal films
of 30 seconds.
1301
01:23:27,419 --> 01:23:29,879
There was nothing like it.
1302
01:23:29,880 --> 01:23:31,255
No one could protect her...
1303
01:23:31,256 --> 01:23:33,132
- Dear.
- …of the passion it inspired.
1304
01:23:33,133 --> 01:23:34,717
It is a blissful perfume.
1305
01:23:34,718 --> 01:23:36,887
How can we take it to the maximum?
1306
01:23:38,346 --> 01:23:41,557
Someone did the storyboard
for Obsession.
1307
01:23:41,558 --> 01:23:44,727
He said: "I don't like it.
It's like a Chrysler ad.
1308
01:23:44,728 --> 01:23:46,270
I want you to do it.
1309
01:23:46,271 --> 01:23:50,024
We will do the scene with the polaroids
and you draw it from there."
1310
01:23:50,025 --> 01:23:53,611
And I thought, "I love him.
"He is a man who resolves."
1311
01:23:53,612 --> 01:23:55,154
- Save me.
- As?
1312
01:23:55,155 --> 01:23:58,574
And he got very into acting.
1313
01:23:58,575 --> 01:24:00,118
Here we are Dick and I.
1314
01:24:00,619 --> 01:24:02,828
Look. I pretend to kiss him.
1315
01:24:02,829 --> 01:24:04,955
He dances with me.
1316
01:24:04,956 --> 01:24:07,918
It's very fun.
1317
01:24:09,419 --> 01:24:11,295
He had a sense of humor.
1318
01:24:11,296 --> 01:24:13,964
Fashion people aren't usually like that.
1319
01:24:13,965 --> 01:24:17,426
My commercial photography
It doesn't have any negative side.
1320
01:24:17,427 --> 01:24:19,053
It amuses me.
1321
01:24:19,054 --> 01:24:21,388
He grew up in the Great Depression.
1322
01:24:21,389 --> 01:24:23,808
I loved having money. It was great.
1323
01:24:23,809 --> 01:24:26,894
And when I made money,
people attacked him:
1324
01:24:26,895 --> 01:24:29,855
"How can you live on Park Avenue
and consider yourself an artist?
1325
01:24:29,856 --> 01:24:32,358
You're a pretentious fake."
1326
01:24:32,359 --> 01:24:33,609
But he loved his success,
1327
01:24:33,610 --> 01:24:36,862
especially because it financed
their creative work.
1328
01:24:36,863 --> 01:24:39,991
There are many loves, but only one obsession.
1329
01:24:40,909 --> 01:24:43,410
A famous fashion photographer
came to oklahoma
1330
01:24:43,411 --> 01:24:45,122
to portray oil workers.
1331
01:24:46,331 --> 01:24:48,749
Why a haute couture photographer
1332
01:24:48,750 --> 01:24:53,045
he would change his New York studio
through the oil wells of Oklahoma?
1333
01:24:53,046 --> 01:24:56,966
I work on a project
for the Amon Carter Museum in Fort Worth,
1334
01:24:56,967 --> 01:24:58,300
dedicated to the west.
1335
01:24:58,301 --> 01:25:02,097
and I'm portraying
to the workers of the west.
1336
01:25:02,597 --> 01:25:05,559
Dick needed a contact in that area
1337
01:25:06,059 --> 01:25:08,394
{\an8}and they hired me to investigate.
1338
01:25:08,395 --> 01:25:09,229
{\an8}PHOTOGRAPHER
1339
01:25:10,230 --> 01:25:12,732
Laura showed me the mesquites,
1340
01:25:13,316 --> 01:25:16,026
Navajo tapestries
and the continental divide.
1341
01:25:16,027 --> 01:25:20,281
I'm quite ignorant
in everything that is not photography.
1342
01:25:20,282 --> 01:25:22,700
I was not a very skilled photographer.
1343
01:25:22,701 --> 01:25:25,619
I didn't know much about the diaphragm
nor the shutter speed.
1344
01:25:25,620 --> 01:25:27,371
But what gave me confidence
1345
01:25:27,372 --> 01:25:31,000
was that Dick
He wasn't interested in talking about it.
1346
01:25:31,001 --> 01:25:35,754
In fact, if you wanted
talk to you about photography,
1347
01:25:35,755 --> 01:25:41,010
I lost interest completely
and his face changed.
1348
01:25:41,011 --> 01:25:43,054
Let's take a look, shall we?
1349
01:25:43,805 --> 01:25:44,973
Hello.
1350
01:25:45,557 --> 01:25:47,142
- Hello.
- Forward.
1351
01:25:51,897 --> 01:25:54,982
Dick told me:
"I look for faces that surprise me.
1352
01:25:54,983 --> 01:25:58,235
"I'm looking for a face that supports the wall."
1353
01:25:58,236 --> 01:25:59,987
And what is that?
1354
01:25:59,988 --> 01:26:01,239
Isn't that a great…
1355
01:26:02,782 --> 01:26:04,074
instruction?
1356
01:26:04,075 --> 01:26:06,952
Come. Stand right on the X.
1357
01:26:06,953 --> 01:26:08,871
- There?
- Yes ok.
1358
01:26:08,872 --> 01:26:10,123
- Here?
- That's how it is.
1359
01:26:12,209 --> 01:26:13,793
Billy, look at me.
1360
01:26:14,377 --> 01:26:16,045
Smile barely. That.
1361
01:26:16,046 --> 01:26:18,672
Almost nothing, but with a serious look.
1362
01:26:18,673 --> 01:26:19,799
Very good.
1363
01:26:20,300 --> 01:26:22,092
Beautiful. So. Yes.
1364
01:26:22,093 --> 01:26:23,053
Wonderful.
1365
01:26:23,678 --> 01:26:25,013
- Great face.
- Yes.
1366
01:26:25,972 --> 01:26:30,142
I was excited to be part of that,
1367
01:26:30,143 --> 01:26:35,941
but I still didn't know
how unusual his vision was.
1368
01:26:37,817 --> 01:26:43,113
He saw a young blond man with curls
who gutted a snake.
1369
01:26:43,114 --> 01:26:46,700
And I thought, "Maybe I should do his hair."
hair back.
1370
01:26:46,701 --> 01:26:48,911
Maybe it's better this way..."
1371
01:26:48,912 --> 01:26:50,496
He said, "No."
1372
01:26:50,497 --> 01:26:55,794
And I realized that it was
a different way of seeing things.
1373
01:26:56,503 --> 01:26:59,129
For me, he is half child, half angel.
1374
01:26:59,130 --> 01:27:02,091
He has a cold look
of a young man who gains strength
1375
01:27:02,092 --> 01:27:03,926
and her mouth looks like that of a girl.
1376
01:27:03,927 --> 01:27:07,596
The snake is castrated,
but he holds it like a beautiful lyre.
1377
01:27:07,597 --> 01:27:09,306
It's like a mythical image,
1378
01:27:09,307 --> 01:27:14,103
with the turbulence of adolescence
engraved on it.
1379
01:27:14,104 --> 01:27:15,980
Dick said at this time:
1380
01:27:15,981 --> 01:27:21,193
"This is an important portrait.
"I know something big will come out of this."
1381
01:27:21,194 --> 01:27:24,239
And it was the beginning of the whole project.
1382
01:27:33,456 --> 01:27:37,626
Dick wanted to work
with white paper background.
1383
01:27:37,627 --> 01:27:40,212
I didn't want to portray them in the field.
1384
01:27:40,213 --> 01:27:44,174
A cowboy against a white background
represents all cowboys.
1385
01:27:44,175 --> 01:27:48,263
If it is leaning against a post,
He is nothing more than a simple cowboy.
1386
01:27:48,888 --> 01:27:54,018
{\an8}I subscribed to 23 newspapers
for research.
1387
01:27:54,019 --> 01:27:57,188
{\an8}Dick placed an ad:
"Send a polaroid of yourself."
1388
01:27:57,689 --> 01:27:59,649
{\an8}There was an exceptional man.
1389
01:28:00,942 --> 01:28:04,361
He said, "I'm Ronald Fischer. I'm a beekeeper."
1390
01:28:04,362 --> 01:28:05,946
He looked like the Buddha.
1391
01:28:05,947 --> 01:28:08,240
We put the scent of the queen bee
1392
01:28:08,241 --> 01:28:13,037
in the chest
by Ronald Fischer, the beekeeper.
1393
01:28:13,038 --> 01:28:17,083
The bees surrounded him
and they rested on him.
1394
01:28:18,835 --> 01:28:22,629
The preparation that each photo requires
It's something incredible.
1395
01:28:22,630 --> 01:28:27,968
First he made a sketch
on a sheet of lined yellow paper.
1396
01:28:27,969 --> 01:28:32,431
{\an8}And he made a lot of marks,
which later would be the bees.
1397
01:28:32,432 --> 01:28:37,604
Impressive how similar it is
to the final photo.
1398
01:28:38,355 --> 01:28:42,733
Dick always understood
that there is great beauty,
1399
01:28:42,734 --> 01:28:44,611
but also big flaws.
1400
01:28:48,323 --> 01:28:53,286
{\an8}And the flaws were attractive to him
because that's where the magic is.
1401
01:28:54,788 --> 01:28:58,207
Dick used to capitalize
1402
01:28:58,208 --> 01:29:02,461
{\an8}any characteristic of someone
1403
01:29:02,462 --> 01:29:05,882
that was a little strange
or a little disturbing.
1404
01:29:06,674 --> 01:29:08,759
A lanky posture,
1405
01:29:08,760 --> 01:29:13,139
messy hair
or a face full of scars.
1406
01:29:14,307 --> 01:29:17,811
Theatrical things.
1407
01:29:23,358 --> 01:29:26,194
What did you know about the American West?
1408
01:29:27,112 --> 01:29:29,489
John Wayne, the Marlboro Men,
1409
01:29:30,824 --> 01:29:32,367
Louis L'Amour.
1410
01:29:33,993 --> 01:29:36,037
- Did you find it?
- Not at all.
1411
01:29:37,455 --> 01:29:41,125
At first, I thought that the world
What was I going to photograph?
1412
01:29:41,126 --> 01:29:42,835
it was very different from mine,
1413
01:29:42,836 --> 01:29:46,171
{\an8}with such different experiences
that we would have nothing in common.
1414
01:29:46,172 --> 01:29:50,134
But, after a couple of meetings,
1415
01:29:50,135 --> 01:29:52,887
I saw that we have in common
everything that matters.
1416
01:29:53,471 --> 01:29:57,100
How do you get children
Have a better life than yours?
1417
01:29:57,642 --> 01:30:01,311
Are your parents getting older and that worries you?
1418
01:30:01,312 --> 01:30:03,814
How do you make a relationship last?
1419
01:30:03,815 --> 01:30:06,275
How do you do something valuable with your life?
1420
01:30:06,276 --> 01:30:09,696
Do you think that's different
for the waitress of a whereabouts?
1421
01:30:11,281 --> 01:30:15,826
Elevates the individual
to an almost divine status.
1422
01:30:15,827 --> 01:30:19,788
One of the great themes
of his life and work as an artist
1423
01:30:19,789 --> 01:30:22,375
It is what is unworthy of suffering.
1424
01:30:23,209 --> 01:30:27,797
I considered it a personal offense
that people suffered.
1425
01:30:28,882 --> 01:30:31,175
When the project was finished,
1426
01:30:31,176 --> 01:30:34,595
no museum in new york
He wanted to display it.
1427
01:30:34,596 --> 01:30:36,013
John Szarkowski,
1428
01:30:36,014 --> 01:30:40,767
a very influential photography curator
from the Museum of Modern Art,
1429
01:30:40,768 --> 01:30:43,562
He said, "This is not the West I see."
1430
01:30:43,563 --> 01:30:47,483
I don't care anymore
what you think of my work.
1431
01:30:47,484 --> 01:30:49,401
I used to care a lot.
1432
01:30:49,402 --> 01:30:52,321
It disturbed people at the time.
1433
01:30:52,322 --> 01:30:56,784
exaggeration and dramatization,
1434
01:30:57,285 --> 01:31:04,167
but it was absolutely innovative,
powerful and important.
1435
01:31:07,795 --> 01:31:11,341
NEW YORK CITY
1436
01:31:13,092 --> 01:31:16,094
In the Manhattan offices
fromThe New Yorker…
1437
01:31:16,095 --> 01:31:17,012
Hello.
1438
01:31:17,013 --> 01:31:19,806
…who is in charge is Tina Brown,
1439
01:31:19,807 --> 01:31:24,646
the most celebrated and controversial editor
of today.
1440
01:31:25,355 --> 01:31:26,314
Yes.
1441
01:31:27,273 --> 01:31:28,357
It makes me nostalgic.
1442
01:31:28,358 --> 01:31:31,777
When I got to The New Yorker,
something I wanted to do
1443
01:31:31,778 --> 01:31:34,780
{\an8}in my magazine redesign
1444
01:31:34,781 --> 01:31:37,158
{\an8}was to open the windows.
1445
01:31:41,746 --> 01:31:46,917
{\an8}Include photographs in the magazine
It went against tradition.
1446
01:31:46,918 --> 01:31:48,086
{\an8}It broke a taboo.
1447
01:31:49,754 --> 01:31:53,340
I had to achieve
the greatest possible visual impact
1448
01:31:53,341 --> 01:31:56,218
to catch the reader.
1449
01:31:56,219 --> 01:31:58,720
For me, the photos
They always fulfilled that role.
1450
01:31:58,721 --> 01:32:01,473
But a story had to be told.
1451
01:32:01,474 --> 01:32:05,936
The photos had to tell it.
And Dick was the best at telling the truth.
1452
01:32:05,937 --> 01:32:11,276
Nobody captured like him
the reality of our time.
1453
01:32:12,986 --> 01:32:16,697
I knew I needed Avedon
and I had to convince him.
1454
01:32:16,698 --> 01:32:18,574
Dick didn't want to be one of the crowd.
1455
01:32:18,575 --> 01:32:24,246
So I said, "I want you to take pictures
for The New Yorker
1456
01:32:24,247 --> 01:32:27,292
and may you be our only photographer."
1457
01:32:28,001 --> 01:32:29,918
That did catch his attention.
1458
01:32:29,919 --> 01:32:33,255
{\an8}You are the official staff photographer
from The New Yorker,
1459
01:32:33,256 --> 01:32:35,967
{\an8}that I had never had
a staff photographer.
1460
01:32:37,093 --> 01:32:38,760
The responsibility was enormous.
1461
01:32:38,761 --> 01:32:43,724
When a photo is in a magazine
With a thousand more photos, it disappears.
1462
01:32:43,725 --> 01:32:46,476
But that only photo of me from each edition
1463
01:32:46,477 --> 01:32:50,480
always attracted attention,
for better or worse.
1464
01:32:50,481 --> 01:32:55,444
The New Yorker was like a temple,
and that meant a lot to him.
1465
01:32:55,445 --> 01:32:57,697
He portrayed many characters.
1466
01:32:59,949 --> 01:33:01,325
The Dalai Lama.
1467
01:33:01,326 --> 01:33:06,580
Oh. When I see this,
It brings back good memories for me.
1468
01:33:06,581 --> 01:33:10,293
Just him and the model.
That was what he loved.
1469
01:33:12,378 --> 01:33:13,421
For God's sake.
1470
01:33:14,297 --> 01:33:16,089
We receive many complaints
1471
01:33:16,090 --> 01:33:20,636
for the fashion portfolio
byMr. and Mrs. Comfort.
1472
01:33:20,637 --> 01:33:26,392
It was neither attractive nor understandable
for most readers.
1473
01:33:27,101 --> 01:33:29,811
I can't separate fashion
of our reality.
1474
01:33:29,812 --> 01:33:33,315
And I thought: "Why not merge
what I perceive socially
1475
01:33:33,316 --> 01:33:35,859
in a fashion shoot?"
1476
01:33:35,860 --> 01:33:40,322
It was such an intense project.
that I still have the scars.
1477
01:33:40,323 --> 01:33:43,117
I think it baffled
to the readers of The New Yorker.
1478
01:33:43,868 --> 01:33:45,452
But who cares?
1479
01:33:45,453 --> 01:33:50,124
You have to get ahead of the readers.
And bite the hand that reads your magazine.
1480
01:33:58,049 --> 01:34:02,636
I had been working for a month
in Avedon's studio.
1481
01:34:02,637 --> 01:34:07,266
And he called me for a project.
1482
01:34:08,893 --> 01:34:12,814
Week after week, we sat
on a table with a light box.
1483
01:34:13,314 --> 01:34:19,278
The pencil marks indicated
Which ones should I keep?
1484
01:34:21,280 --> 01:34:24,157
The chosen photos were saved.
1485
01:34:24,158 --> 01:34:28,955
And everything else was taken
to an industrial crusher
1486
01:34:30,873 --> 01:34:31,958
and was destroyed.
1487
01:34:34,168 --> 01:34:37,338
What do I do with this responsibility,
with my work,
1488
01:34:38,464 --> 01:34:43,135
accumulated in deposits,
What do I carry like a bag of cement?
1489
01:34:43,136 --> 01:34:47,681
All the exhibitions I did
and the photos I printed are there,
1490
01:34:47,682 --> 01:34:50,642
as if they were living beings.
1491
01:34:50,643 --> 01:34:55,647
There were never bad photographs
that had to be destroyed
1492
01:34:55,648 --> 01:34:59,068
because they were embarrassing
or its composition was not good.
1493
01:35:00,778 --> 01:35:06,408
The objective was
leave the best of your archive.
1494
01:35:06,409 --> 01:35:12,914
It was thinking about his legacy
to leave the pieces that Dick wanted.
1495
01:35:12,915 --> 01:35:15,584
Only the ones he decided to keep
1496
01:35:15,585 --> 01:35:18,837
are part of the file
by Richard Avedon.
1497
01:35:18,838 --> 01:35:20,298
FRAGILE
1498
01:35:23,342 --> 01:35:24,802
Very good.
1499
01:35:25,928 --> 01:35:27,638
Isn't it going to work?
1500
01:35:34,061 --> 01:35:36,646
What do we do? Who is in charge of this?
1501
01:35:36,647 --> 01:35:39,441
Install it inside.
I show you where and how.
1502
01:35:39,442 --> 01:35:41,485
In fact, come with me.
1503
01:35:41,486 --> 01:35:43,905
Steve, come with me and Andre.
1504
01:35:44,822 --> 01:35:48,450
Nobody is asking me to do anything,
1505
01:35:48,451 --> 01:35:54,081
But I want the engine to keep running,
because that's me.
1506
01:35:54,916 --> 01:35:59,127
I was very excited
with the last series I was doing.
1507
01:35:59,128 --> 01:36:01,671
And I was so committed to it.
1508
01:36:01,672 --> 01:36:05,843
as it had been
with the era of the summer of love.
1509
01:36:07,261 --> 01:36:10,972
TILES
1510
01:36:10,973 --> 01:36:13,642
- I help the photographer.
- That's how it is.
1511
01:36:13,643 --> 01:36:15,978
- It's a... My name is Dick.
- His name is Dick.
1512
01:36:16,896 --> 01:36:21,525
Dick told me he was working
in a big project for The New Yorker
1513
01:36:21,526 --> 01:36:23,652
which had him very excited.
1514
01:36:23,653 --> 01:36:26,696
It was going to be called Democracy.
1515
01:36:26,697 --> 01:36:27,614
{\an8}LOST JOBS
1516
01:36:27,615 --> 01:36:30,951
{\an8}I had already been
at the republican convention
1517
01:36:30,952 --> 01:36:32,619
and the democratic convention,
1518
01:36:32,620 --> 01:36:35,706
{\an8}and he had portrayed people.
1519
01:36:40,461 --> 01:36:41,587
Raise your chin.
1520
01:36:42,088 --> 01:36:44,090
Yes, wonderful. Get serious.
1521
01:36:46,217 --> 01:36:47,134
So.
1522
01:36:48,219 --> 01:36:51,263
His vision is his portrait of the country.
1523
01:36:51,264 --> 01:36:54,850
The problems I believed
that had to be faced.
1524
01:36:54,851 --> 01:36:58,688
obesity,
armed violence, the border.
1525
01:36:59,814 --> 01:37:04,609
One night he said: "Tomorrow I want to portray
to the pregnant teenager
1526
01:37:04,610 --> 01:37:08,071
who is 18 years old
and a son of two and another of five,
1527
01:37:08,072 --> 01:37:09,949
and he didn't finish high school."
1528
01:37:10,700 --> 01:37:14,494
But, around 8:00,
He called me and told me:
1529
01:37:14,495 --> 01:37:17,415
"Laura, I don't feel well."
1530
01:37:19,792 --> 01:37:22,879
But then he said:
"We have to take that photo."
1531
01:37:35,933 --> 01:37:37,310
- Hello, dad.
- Dick.
1532
01:37:42,732 --> 01:37:43,566
That!
1533
01:37:48,321 --> 01:37:52,365
Avedon was one of the photographers
most influential of the 20th century.
1534
01:37:52,366 --> 01:37:54,327
He died in San Antonio, Texas.
1535
01:37:55,161 --> 01:37:56,662
He was 81 years old.
1536
01:37:57,496 --> 01:38:00,874
I received a call:
"I found out that Dick Avedon died."
1537
01:38:00,875 --> 01:38:02,292
And I remember...
1538
01:38:02,293 --> 01:38:06,004
My knees were shaking.
I had to sit down.
1539
01:38:06,005 --> 01:38:07,839
It was a great loss.
1540
01:38:07,840 --> 01:38:10,050
A great loss.
1541
01:38:10,051 --> 01:38:14,180
I felt like it had opened
a big black hole.
1542
01:38:14,680 --> 01:38:16,849
I can't work like this.
1543
01:38:19,310 --> 01:38:20,353
We're done.
1544
01:38:20,853 --> 01:38:24,147
Dick was a man
extremely endearing.
1545
01:38:24,148 --> 01:38:27,525
He could be complicated, a perfectionist...
1546
01:38:27,526 --> 01:38:30,029
But it was extremely endearing.
1547
01:38:30,988 --> 01:38:33,823
And it is…
1548
01:38:33,824 --> 01:38:37,703
I was one of those people
that, when he arrived,
1549
01:38:38,287 --> 01:38:40,038
You were always happy to see him.
1550
01:38:40,039 --> 01:38:46,211
He radiated a lot of life
and incandescent energy.
1551
01:38:46,212 --> 01:38:47,879
Don't make faces.
1552
01:38:47,880 --> 01:38:49,965
He died at the foot of the canyon.
1553
01:38:49,966 --> 01:38:55,261
He left exactly
as we had talked about
1554
01:38:55,262 --> 01:38:56,847
and how he wanted.
1555
01:38:58,349 --> 01:38:59,475
And also...
1556
01:39:02,687 --> 01:39:07,108
I think I will always carry it within me.
1557
01:39:07,608 --> 01:39:10,361
And it will live in my heart.
1558
01:39:11,529 --> 01:39:14,448
I think he was a great humanist.
1559
01:39:15,199 --> 01:39:20,412
The common thread that runs through
every stage of your work
1560
01:39:20,413 --> 01:39:22,665
is that it exalts the individual.
1561
01:39:23,833 --> 01:39:29,379
In his work, he tries to discover himself
in the faces of others,
1562
01:39:29,380 --> 01:39:31,549
in the lives of others.
1563
01:39:32,049 --> 01:39:36,721
Without a doubt, that marked his life and existence.
1564
01:39:53,821 --> 01:39:55,698
My great-grandfather.
1565
01:39:56,699 --> 01:39:57,742
Where is?
1566
01:40:14,675 --> 01:40:19,096
What changes do you think there will be
in the future of photography?
1567
01:40:19,847 --> 01:40:22,390
I don't think there will be photographers in the future.
1568
01:40:22,391 --> 01:40:23,892
What are you talking about?
1569
01:40:23,893 --> 01:40:28,313
In the next hundred years,
I think there will only be machines.
1570
01:40:28,314 --> 01:40:30,440
The cameras will be activated automatically.
1571
01:40:30,441 --> 01:40:37,198
And the information will be channeled
to the data center and will be stored.
1572
01:40:38,616 --> 01:40:43,454
And when you want photos of riots,
of psychiatric hospitals,
1573
01:40:44,038 --> 01:40:46,998
of giant sequoias or clouds,
1574
01:40:46,999 --> 01:40:49,334
you will press a button and it will appear...
1575
01:40:49,335 --> 01:40:50,711
MAY 4 - JUNE 24
1576
01:40:52,046 --> 01:40:55,173
What makes a good photographer
It's not his technique.
1577
01:40:55,174 --> 01:40:57,760
He is the mind behind the camera.
1578
01:43:21,946 --> 01:43:25,115
{\an8}Subtitles: Laura Ferrari